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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: X00013 on August 13, 2008, 05:58:16 PM
@ Exxcom, I like vids, all vids, in your vid at about 2:40, when your are testing the open end config , your roller mag kept getting pulled to the same side ( I hope this makes sense), I believe this is maybe becauase you had the marernik y array like 1 foot away.  The fields from these neos extend beyond 5 feet ( as Que noted ). Just a thought.

It was mostly an exercise to see how the fields behave. I was actually playing with an array from Howard Johnson that I saw in a vid from sm0ky (does anyone remember sm0ky? I miss that guy!) on the peswiki site under magnetic arrays (but I can't find the exact page. Go to the Tube and search for "Sm0ky2" in channels to see it).

It (the array) draws a mag in with little to no wall at the end.
I just wanted to see how the fields would react when it was completely closed (the neatest thing was it rolling back and forth in some sort of tidal pull when in the completed rectangle) and how far from a closed end it would need to be to behave like it did when both (short) ends were open.

Just playin'......;D
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

therealrasta

Ok.. I have been gone a while and have done some testing and found the mayernick is all we need. I need  some more mags to do some more needed testing and will be ordering them tonight... I saw the new ideas you guys (EXXCOMM0N and BULLSNBEARS) have been coming up with and I like it.  Definitely what I have noticed while I was testing also.. Just drive it straight into the mayernick with another mayernick. I was just coming on to tell you guys that when I noticed you already seemed to figure it out.

Also I am sad to see Archer giving up on this project.. He helped to push and lead us all in the right direction.  However we should be able to take it from here with ease. 


bullsnbears1

Quote from: exxcomm0n on August 13, 2008, 12:53:30 PM
New vid, same crap.
(For those whining about my failed experiments, why don't you just skip this one. ;) )

Trying some different configurations to see about varying the flux field using different arrays to see about closing the loop (which might not be a loop anymore, but more of a bi-level track).

Some tentative experiments with the hexagonal layout, but nothing even close to bullsnbears vid.

The idea is to try to add each MkE sequentially to see if it will stay true to effect and also allow closing the loop (although Thaelin seems to have reported negative results [POST SOME VIDS BUD! ;) ]).

Nothing really worth watching.

;D

Vid is here:

http://www.youtube.com/v/cEgPQV_ZtM4

Hey Ex... thanks for the vid.

One thing to remember when trying to intersect arrays as in my video is that  the exit point of the arrays is 3/4" away from the plexi - LOWER than the entry point of the second array. Therefore the plexi is pushing the roller mag away from the field towards the end of the arrays. Notice the blocks of wood - their spacing & location.

Unlike AQ, I think this is critical - more important than simply ramming one array into the side of the other. I think the key to some of this is moving the mags outside of one simple plane - I.E. using a third dimension in your build to "regulate" the strength of different parts of the array - the point of my second vid.

queue

Quote from: bullsnbears1 on August 14, 2008, 08:53:52 AM
Hey Ex... thanks for the vid.

One thing to remember when trying to intersect arrays as in my video is that  the exit point of the arrays is 3/4" away from the plexi - LOWER than the entry point of the second array. Therefore the plexi is pushing the roller mag away from the field towards the end of the arrays. Notice the blocks of wood - their spacing & location.

Unlike AQ, I think this is critical - more important than simply ramming one array into the side of the other. I think the key to some of this is moving the mags outside of one simple plane - I.E. using a third dimension in your build to "regulate" the strength of different parts of the array - the point of my second vid.

i had somehow missed your second video .. i just watched it now. Very helpful. .thank you.
Will probably try to replicate it myself .. maybe this weekend.

Question .. if you feel inclined to answer .. have you tried closing the loop using this technique ? 
Seems to me one might need a platter that tilts to implement a closed loop.

Your method of intersecting the arrays sort of reminds me of the Finrod mobila thing .. which does indeed seem to work.
Fascinating !  
Thanks for sharing !

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ
 
Cheers
Q

bullsnbears1

Quote from: queue on August 14, 2008, 10:27:37 AM
i had somehow missed your second video .. i just watched it now. Very helpful. .thank you.
Will probably try to replicate it myself .. maybe this weekend.

Question .. if you feel inclined to answer .. have you tried closing the loop using this technique ? 
Seems to me one might need a platter that tilts to implement a closed loop.

Your method of intersecting the arrays sort of reminds me of the Finrod mobila thing .. which does indeed seem to work.
Fascinating !  
Thanks for sharing !

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ
 
Cheers
Q

I haven't tried to close any loops because have a very limited number of neos right now. If you look back you'll see that everything I've done so far has been done with 30 - 1/2" noes. Very limiting.

I need to order more noes to move forward with some of this stuff, but I have other projects that are taking up all my time/money right now.

I can't find any info on the "Finrod mobila thing". Could you elaborate or link? thanks!