Roll on the 20th June

[g4macdad]

WHAT THE HELL IS PROJECT BLUE BEAM?

WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN ON OCTOBER 14TH?

[exxcomm0n]

100% agree about Clinton.

You cannot judge a party from one candidate(think Ron Paul or GeeDubya).

Ron Paul still perpetuates many right wing myths.

Take a close look at Obama's stance on economic and lobbyist issues. These are the most important issues to me right now. In fact I supported Edwards earlier on for his efforts against lobbyists, but his voting record left a lot to be desired. The basic ideologies of the Democrats seem to make the most sense to me, and Obama conveys these ideals better than any single politician I have seen.

The ideology of democrats has historically been that more legislation brings better living (but less freedom) and that the cost of this "security" is more taxes. They legislate and vote in such a manner as a rule.

History proves this a fallacy as we watch our liberties slowly stripped via legislation or taxation.
Please explain to me how my findings in this matter can be incorrect since these opinions (that you asked for specifically)  were put forth in my last post and not addressed.

When does Obama propose in election promises that it (patriot act) will be completely repealed?

If he can answer that question, he MIGHT have a vote, but I'm not holding my breath.

As to Oct. 14th and blue beam, I know of @ least 2 threads dealing with Oct. 14th and I'm sure that if you use the google search link @ the top of each page to search THE WEB for it you will be furnished with the answers you seek.

[g4macdad]

The ideology of democrats has historically been that more legislation brings better living (but less freedom) and that the cost of this "security" is more taxes. They legislate and vote in such a manner as a rule.

History proves this a fallacy as we watch our liberties slowly stripped via legislation or taxation.
Please explain to me how my findings in this matter can be incorrect since these opinions (that you asked for specifically)  were put forth in my last post and not addressed.

When does Obama propose in election promises that it (patriot act) will be completely repealed?

If he can answer that question, he MIGHT have a vote, but I'm not holding my breath.

As to Oct. 14th and blue beam, I know of @ least 2 threads dealing with Oct. 14th and I'm sure that if you use the google search link @ the top of each page to search THE WEB for it you will be furnished with the answers you seek.

I simply see the matter in a different light. It is "Legislation" that protected Americans with little or no money from rich Monarchists. Think labor unions. When no protection was provided by labor unions, wages, hours and rights standards for workers were nonexistent.

It is a fundamental political ideal. Leave things unregulated, and the wealth and rights always flow toward the upper class. The argument I have heard is: "America is not a Democracy"! LOL DUH! Pure Democracy, is an extreme left wing idea(as socialism and communism are also). Nobody, but political pundits trying to spread propaganda, is talking extremes! The fact that our style of government leans left, is what enabled us to become a superpower. As we lean right we begin to exhibit the same signs of governmental failure of the right wing governments of the past.

Here is a video --->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfrQalpmdqk<--- that is so simplified it is almost comical, but it demonstrates the fundamental differences between the "left" and "right" extremes quite well.

I was getting bored of talking politics. That was the reason I posed those questions about Blue Beam and Oct. 14th.


Also a scary video of claims of US concentration camps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBxdRIQx7Y


This might be BS, but citizens should never shrink from controversy, but seek out the truth bravely.

[infringer]

Labor unions are currupt in there own rights as well.

I know this first hand the companies still have the choice weather they wanna pass something through or not so ultimately the company wins.

They are a false security blanket that you pay your hard earned money for yet another tax.

I have seen heard and discussed things about unions without leading people on and all of them tell me the same things.

Some of the stuff that goes on in union meetings is very poor business... They are ment to work like the legal process of today pass one good thing and stick it to workers on 10 other things fairly silently sneaking in new policy.

You must under stand that the company knows all about BATNA..... And they will not pass something without gaining more of something else.

They are not for the worker so the next time you decide to be a corperate ass kisser just remember all of the innocent victims you will step on to get somewhere and payback is a bitch!

[g4macdad]

Labor unions are currupt in there own rights as well.

I know this first hand the companies still have the choice weather they wanna pass something through or not so ultimately the company wins.

They are a false security blanket that you pay your hard earned money for yet another tax.

I have seen heard and discussed things about unions without leading people on and all of them tell me the same things.

Some of the stuff that goes on in union meetings is very poor business... They are meant to work like the legal process of today pass one good thing and stick it to workers on 10 other things fairly silently sneaking in new policy.

You must under stand that the company knows all about BATNA..... And they will not pass something without gaining more of something else.

They are not for the worker so the next time you decide to be a corperate ass kisser just remember all of the innocent victims you will step on to get somewhere and payback is a bitch!

How you feel about Labor Unions is actually quite irrelevant. It is a historical fact that any rights a worker now enjoys, was only brought about because of them.

Since the general opinion of Unions has become negative, most people have no real benefits, wage increases have become nonexistent and the middle class is becoming extinct. This is no coincidence.

If you vote republican, prepare for the situation to worsen, and please cry into your own cheerios.