Roll on the 20th June

[mscoffman]

while i must admit to a sensation of mild amusement from the senseless cyber-battling, that has historically dominated this thread...

do we think it might cause any harm to contribute some degree of productivity to the revelant topic of magneto-gravitic energy production?

It should be quite clear by now, to anyone that has made a frugal attempt at experimentation with the energy difference between repulsive magnetic lift, and gravitational fall...  That useful energy can be extracted from the difference in these two forces.

The details of this information have been obscured behind some 6,000 posts of nonsensical argumentation and conjecture, but it is here for everyone to see.

If, in fact, the purpose of our presence here is to achieve "free energy", it would only be logical to give this subject further study.

I really dont see how turning this thread into a warzone is helping to achieve our goals...

Well stated Sm0ky. If we have major psychological "blowups" every time we
come close to the goal then what hope is there? Get it working and document it
working, then we can argue about the implications. I respect the effort that
you are putting in on this.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[ramset]

SmOkey
You are Of course correct ,I apologize for the Tom foolery and shananigans that I have contributed here.
   In an attempt at my own pathetic defense ,Archer started this thread swinging a baseball bat in a very crowded room ,I tend to get drawn into those kind of things,[childish]!,And I really liked what he had to say,His Concept as well as some of his thoughts are quite intriguing ,I do believe there is something to his device ,and I do believe You......
Smokey
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contribute some degree of productivity to the revelant topic of magneto-gravitic energy production

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Speaking Of Magnets and gravity and things that go round

Please have a look here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10840.msg296849#new

This Man Came in very strong sharing all [almost]
Now he goes silent ,I would appreciate some of you fellows with the larger Craniums and building skills give this a Look over?

There is something about "Sphere Magnets" that grabs my small brain,
I remember  Xoo13 [I think thats how he wrote it] saying Sphere mags held the answer,but at the time 08 -09 you couldn't get them
Now we can ..............
Thank you
Chet

[exxcomm0n]

This is the funniest thread since Little Miss Mosfet bit the dust.
Look, if you take a hundred dollar bill and burn it up in a fire... does the fire then owe you a hundred dollars? If you flush three twenties down the toilet, do you expect to get your sixty bucks back? If you feed quarters into a gumball machine, do you really think you're going to get something other than gumballs out of it?
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So why continue arguing about whether Quinn owes anybody anything; the reality is that you are never going to see anything except more silly videos from Quinn.

Because if I donate to the Christain Children's Fund, Unicef, the Salvation Army, the EFF, or any other charity I deem fit there is oversight and accountability for the dollars coming in and those going to the cause I donated for and not the administration thereof.

I donated to a worthwhile cause (which proved to be worthless) and it seems the only thing my donation went for was to help formulate the next batch of snake oil.

If I donate to my local fire station, I expect that donation to go to the purchase of fire fighting equipment or additional training, not to be used to purchase materials for the next fund raiser.
I'll start getting really upset if the fire dept. can't put out my house fire because they spent my donation on oyster crackers for the next soup supper instead of fire hose to get the water from the hydrant to my house.

Crooker offered the money back, and I was willing to let it go (I had for 3 years, that's pretty good proof), but when he comes back hawking the next new discovery of "Crooker the Inept Inuit Quinn" instead of trotting out his working wheel, I'm gonna call him on it by saying in essence, "Get lost or pay up" whether it be w/ a working machine or a refund of my donation.

If it takes the work that this is, and the ridicule of the nameless/faceless, THAT is what my "donation" bought me; my right to question and expect answers, or as is more historically proven, to prod Crooker into going away for days/months/years.

So far it seems to be working, don't fuck w/ the mojo.

@ Willy

Back to your trolling ways, tsk, tsk. Asking others for them to ask you for forgiveness is a bit like asking for a donation back, eh?
But I have my own little latin phrase for you, since latin dresses it up so nice and all and makes me look much more educated (Not really, but it's the same ruse you use so I can't resist).

Vos combibo vetus sudo ex meus orbs.

while i must admit to a sensation of mild amusement from the senseless cyber-battling, that has historically dominated this thread...

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I really dont see how turning this thread into a warzone is helping to achieve our goals...

I was talking about the wheel and the difficulties it's design is entailing up until Crooker tried to turn this into the Magnetic Array thread instead of the gravity assisted wheel thread.
I think your build and effort are worthy of awarding the proof of concept (and thread) to you, and not Crooker.
I will, as I have, offer suggestions as I historically have. You even liked 1 of them.

But give Crooker free rein to come back as if his failure isn't recognized? I was good about supporting an egomaniac's claim to revolutionary design when everything was in the future to be proven.
It's now in the past disproven to be possible from the font of inexorable hyperbole.
He broke a the wall. The first time with extra energy that cannot be controlled and the next time with no extra energy.
I think he could have waited a little longer and presented something a little more impressive, but it seems that the videos were slap-dashed together just to ride the wave of interest that YOUR further experimentation has generated.

I just want him to get his own thread for a different concept and leave this one until he can provide what he promised by June 20th 2008.

I gave him 3 years as he presented this (SOG) as established, tested, AND reproducible fact.
I'll give you a lifetime as you're experimenting to see if there is a reality in Crooker's concept.

I didn't donate to a concept. I donated to a reproduction that I still have yet to see, and I will not let him forget that.

Now this Wilby stuff is just fun because he seems to think I respect his opinion because I comment on it.
I also comment when a public restroom smells of use and neglect, but my interest in it is only enough for it to serve the purpose I sought it for, and then it's done.
I try not to add to the source of my comment by peeing all over the floor just because others did, but I will trip one I find peeing on the floor in hopes that I do it so they can wear the production of their effort, or lack thereof.

Tha being said I'll still bring up the question of why have an axle/post protrude through the face of the wheel?
If the bearing can be mounted to the wheel surface and can support the weight and action thereof, it negates the whole offset question to the point of the rods only.

I'll post my other thoughts in a different post.

@ ramset

Your offer is kindly, but will be refused as my demand of a refund is from Crooker and not you. You didn't promise anything.

Few have both comment on design and comment on commentary, but as much as a detraction as I may be seen as, I have offered something that the only person working on anything to do with the wheel thought of use.

I'll keep doing both, but the inequitable amounts should come more into equilibrium with the more honest (wheel) questions that are asked and the less trolling of me or others that occurs.
Can I help it if I'm overactive that way?

[ramset]

Exx
So we can have a group Hug now??

{Cept Wilby, He does that "reach around" thing [something about his Religion?}!=}



Did You look at the Magnetman thread ?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10840.msg296849#new


I believe its another means to the same end?
Gravity Spinning and "repulsion" !!

Chet

[infringer]

I did have a look at it but as of now it appears as if all the content that made the thread interesting is currently MIA.

-infringer-
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