Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

First of all,. i have nothing against free energy and/or perpetual motion. for i have seen both of these in action.

i do however have a serious problem with someone who blatently misrepresents information to further their own cause.

Example::  Sattelite:  sattelites dont fall because of precise calculations, and rocket boosters holding them in the right position to continue orbit. Gravity certainly DOES try to pull them to earth.
We had one drop just last month, because its power source wore out.

They dont stay up there by some magical orbital path that holds things against gravitational force that far into the field.

If you have some secret to make this wheel work, why wait until the 20th? you can post it right here and 200 people will have working wheels before the sun sets on the U.S. tommorow.

The MIB's arent going to destroy the information you post on this site, before all of us here recreate and repost it 36,000 times. 

even a small one. the tiniest wheel that turns itself, in its simplest form.

It's your move Mr. Quinn, If what you say is true, then you are holding back from us,  the most important secret the world has never known.......

[The Eskimo Quinn]

It will not travel as far, and the 45 has added friction, gravity, think of the satellite, thrust equals lift, so that much is true so why would the ball still make the top of the ramp at the same height with friction??? gravity.

Ok i will spell it out for you why the machine and the pinball work the way they do. gravity works just like a magnet, in fact in every aspect except repulsion in an identical manner now stop pissing around with Newton?s bullshit and go out into the real world and try this, even though you already know, do it again so it refreshes your memory.

take one magnet
take one pin now hold the pin above the magnet
now hold the pin in the same position 10mm to the side above it.
get it now???
the earth does to satellites what magnets do to pins they propel them forward as well as down
it really isn't rocket science, the earth has the same effect here also on items under momentum, the earth is not simply pulling down directly below the item, but in front of it as well the same as a magnet, in space the earth falls away from the object satellite here the object falls away from the earth in a horizontal motion. This was Newton?s and all earth science error there is gravitation pull in a full circle around an object. so one might say, ok then it must be back to square one if the side pull is equal. But Newton and man forgot the Wright brothers, this was all true but for the shape of a wing in front of them all the time, so too is one, well lets call it a tiny detail in physics called "the path of least resistance" this was never taken into account in any of the scientific tables for gravity and objects falling at an angle.

objects on a wheel excluding 3 and 9 o'clock are always falling on an angle, so too the pinball.

No matter the gravity no matter the weight no matter the water running downhill on a very steep angle, low velocity with great weight or pressure unbound will always take the path of least resistance.

so the gravity in front of a moving object has more pull than from any other side point in a circle.

if you need to prove that point simply get a large magnet and lightly toss another one in a forward motion on to it, it will never go sideways will it? even though the magnet pulls equally from all sides, the forward pull is greatest. film it in slow motion, the final and high speed movement accelerates the magnet when it hits field but not directly down, there is a forward motion to the acceleration, not the residue of the momentum, but added momentum in a forward motion faster than it was traveling, the magnetic field or gravity accelerates every component of the falling motion.

There is no equation for this in Newton to calculate forward propulsion by gravity on objects under momentum. Although i could be wrong and satellites are all faked on string

[The Eskimo Quinn]

I think we can finally say that is the end of smokey the unbearable and anything he has to say, every school child know that gravity keeps the satellites in orbit and acclerates them toward earth. here is a little post from a school site for you smokey. and trust we never hear from you again as you don't even know basic scince when it comes to gravity.

Finally, a satellite does fall towards the Earth; only it never falls into the Earth. To understand this concept, we have to remind ourselves of the fact that the Earth is round; that is the Earth curves. In fact, scientists know that on average, the Earth curves approximately 5 meters downward for every 8000 meters along its horizon. If you were to look out horizontally along the horizon of the Earth for 8000 meters, you would observe that the Earth curves downwards below this straight-line path a distance of 5 meters. In order for a satellite to successfully orbit the Earth, it must travel a horizontal distance of 8000 meters before falling a vertical distance of 5 meters. A horizontally launched projectile falls a vertical distance of 5 meters in its first second of motion. To avoid hitting the Earth, an orbiting projectile must be launched with a horizontal speed of 8000 m/s. When launched at this speed, the projectile will fall towards the Earth with a trajectory which matches the curvature of the Earth. As such, the projectile will fall around the Earth, always accelerating towards it under the influence of gravity, yet never colliding into it since the Earth is constantly curving at the same rate. Such a projectile is an orbiting satellite.
http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/mmedia/vectors/sat.html

thanks for comin seeya.

I hope all who read his remarks fully understand he talks rubbish and no clue on even school level science much less physics.

goin up up up in a puff of smoke.

nite all

[sm0ky2]

If that were even remotely the case, when you toss that magnet, instead of accelerating directly ONTO the other magnet increasing^2 as it approaches, it would instead accelerate passed the magnet and go into an orbit around it.

and, by the way, keeping a sattelite in orbit IS rocket science. Which is obviously why you dont understand it.

linear motion within the gravitational field does not change the force gravity has on the object. Which is why it is not regarded in the equation E = mgh.
linear motion with respect to the gravitational field, is only resisted by friction and inertia.

If that sattelite were not in motion, and did not have rockets keeping it moving and on the right path::
for instance, if you were to just stick the sattelite up there, perfectly still---

it would fall in an arc right towards the CENTER of the earth, it would not "go into orbit".

So.  What is the mechanism of transfering this counterweight from bottom-dead-center to the top of the wheel with LESS energy than  E = mgh ??  If it starts at the top, and falls to the bottom, you get back some of that from momentum, say it stops at around...  7:30? 8-o'clock??  How do you propose to get this weight from
8 o'clock up to 12-o'clock with less energy than it normally takes to physically put it there? thus keeping the wheel in motion

[sm0ky2]

you JUST quoted a scientific explanation that shows the sattellite must maintain a forward motion of 8000m/s.
gravity does not propel the sattellite this fast,. ROCKETS DO!!!  as soon as the sattellite slows down to LESS THEN 8000 m/s it starts falling towards the earth, htat's why they have massive power sources onboard to keep boosting them forward and back on orbital path.

if the rockets DIDN'T, the sattellite would FALL. as they sometimes do.

attempting to belittle me doesnt change this. Keep researching, its good for you.

perhaps a little ballistics would be in order next. then you may come to grasp with what you are actually trying to say.