Roll on the 20th June

[pillager]

You got what he wanted.  Now lets go and build whipmag2

[zerotensor]

WELL IT SEEMS A LOT OF FELLOWS HERE GOT JUST WHAT THEY WANTED THANKS  i guess you can all go look for another house to haunt  maybe pull legs off spyders or something    swell bunch    couldn't just let those that are building alone  and watch  NO A FREEKING PISSING CONTEST    NICE WELL I GUESS YOUR THE WINNERS NOW !!!! [feel like winners ?  look like LOOSERS to me]  I get away on a job a couple days and come back to this PUKE   you SUCK period     Chet

SIG  another big winna  step up and take your prize    you saved us      thank you    the world thanks you    so how far was your finale piss       real good I hope   well whatever .  so whats a good pisser like you do now ? seems like your still hanging around //shouldn't you be off training with your buddies ?   Chet

ramset's and Archer's  comments look more like "piss" to me than anything else in this discussion.  Let the flushing begin.

*whooosh*

[ramset]

ZERO well now i feel better    hopefully you also     nice to know you put me in with  good company thanx    Chet

[zerotensor]

ZERO well now i feel better    hopefully you also     nice to know you put me in with  good company thanx    Chet

Chet, my bladder is empty.  I am sorry if I offended you.  Peace.

[Sprocket]

@Libra_Spirit:  Hi.  You seem to have a good understanding of the physics involved here.  Question:  the below quoted paragraph is from Archer site (or was, it's gone now...), which I thought was an honest mistake, but he insisted this is how 'real' physics works - just wondering what your take is on this...

here is a tip, a water turbine/generator at a local waterfall can generate vast amount of power when tons of water pour over the blades, yes???

the generator is so large (10 ton turbine )that to turn it must have one ton torque to turn it, but there is a drought, the local council puts in steps and a lift connected to the turbine , ten locals at 100 kgs each walk up the steps and step on the lift, the one tone weight of the locals turns the turbine until they reach the bottom of the steps again.

the local council guy sees this working and says hey instead of all the guys walking up the stairs, lets put 900 kg on the lift and one guy can walk up the stairs, they do this and it works once, as the 900 kgs, is now stuck at the bottom, so the local council puts in an arm on the side of the turbine with 900 kgs on one end and 900kgs on the other end, they position the arms at 1oclock and 7 oclock, there are 2 landings also at this point, a man steps on the end of the arm at 10 oclock and it turns round to 7oclock where he steps off and the next guy steps on the other end at one oclock and the wheel turns for as long as this happens. there is no physics in the world that can dispute this, nor any common sense. what science fails to realize is that i am turning a 10 ton turbine with one man weighing only 100 kgs. science always thought of Newton and the equation of pounds falling x gravity etc, and never did any equations exist for environment already existing. need to try this at home?

To me it seems like a seriously flawed argument: the arm-lift thingy with 900kgs on each side would still require 10 men to move the generator.
I think he is mistakenly thinking that the momentum of the system will aid in adding force but when you apply one 100kg man you apply 100kgs of force, no more no less.
If this kind of reasoning is what makes him think his machine can work I'm betting that come june 20th his website won't be updated with a working model.
The ideas behind the machine itself are interesting but when I sincerely asked him how he decides on what weights for the arms and what strengths of magnets to use for any given configuration he throws a hissy fit and goes off to insult everyone (not that he doesn't do enough of that on his website).
So not only does he talk nonsense at least half the time, when asked for information that could aid replication he just simply throws up this spew of insults mixed with nonsense.
Red flags to me.

@ ramset: like stated above, all I wanted was decent information to aid replication and the guy just spews nonsense. Who the F are you to go out and criticize me for that. If someone here is giving potential replicators a hard time it's the Quinn himself.

Yep, that my take on it too - however, if my take is wrong, it changes everything ('common-sense' says it's not though).  Anyone with a torque-wrench and a few bits & bobs want to disprove this??? 

This is all so depressing - oil is above $125 now, prices at the pumps go up daily it seems.  It amusing when I hear those in the U.S complaining about the cost of gas (petrol here) - we are really shafted here!  And you guys are probably about to be 'bribed' with some fuel-tax rebate if so-and-so gets elected - is the average US citizen really dumb enough not to see this for what it is - take prices sky-high, then reduce fuel-tax!!!  Those in charge apparently think so...  Anyway, I have just enrolled in the acetone experiment, HHO is next...