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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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JohnGalt_USA

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on May 23, 2008, 01:38:32 AM
as for perpetual motion like I said it can't be done on earth because you are using bearings and at some stage they will cog and stop stopping your machine sure you can change the bearing and off you go again but it didn't spin for ever.

I think that you are being a little narrow in your thinking. If you can achieve overunity then surely one could build a robot that can make and replaces bearings. But why stop there, how about a robot that can mine the metal, recycle the metal, and make endless copies of itself? With free energy, automation would be only be limited by your imagination.

MrGrynch

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 22, 2008, 06:29:59 PM
Batter up,

Let?s knock some of this bullshit out of the park.,

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@mrgrynch

If you place a simple bar magnet on a CRT display with either the N or S pole touching the glass, you will see a pattern form.. now twist the magnet without lifting it from the screen.. does the pattern change?   No, because the field is not tied to the magnet, it is the deformation (polarization) of the surrounding vacuum

True buuut if you take your same magnet and place it on your on old style television screen and repeat the exercise it does leave a pattern, the best view of the polarization trick, and it is a trick, they just don?t realize it, I can perform the same trick with ball bearings and a sheet of glass, many particles can revolve around themselves and indeed work as basics molecular cohesive teams all the time, electrons around the atom. Take a sheet of glass and a handful of ball bearings and repeat the exercise again with the pole of a magnet over a sheet of glass, pick up the ball bearings, now twist the magnet, the don?t move!!!

Yeah I know, fucking annoying isn?t it, when some prick has an answer for everything. Your trick is no more proof of field than mine. What you are demonstrating is still only theory, because it can be disproved like this in many ways. BOING

First, you read too much into my comments.  I am not saying that my explanation in any way invalidates what you are saying with regard to your device.  I am merely explaining how a magnet can have such an effect and still not be doing any work.

Your example does not disprove my explanation.  All you've done is create an analog, and it behaves exactly as I would expect.  Everything exists within the vacuum, and all matter is made of the vacuum.  Energy is simply the propagation of force through this medium.  If the field the magnet creates does not change form in the vacuum due to the motion of the magnet, why then would you expect the ball bearings duly immersed in this environment, to behave any differently?  I sure wouldn't.

While you may have something to say about everything and everyone, that is not really an "answer" because I didn't ask any question, and you did not provide any further insight.

As far as your device goes, I believe PM is possible.  The question is whether you, Archer Quinn, have achieved it.  We'll all find out in less than a month.



onesnzeros

Quote from: infringer on May 22, 2008, 11:16:57 PM

1sn0's - I would have to say there is currently a working business model in place already in this thread free energy would simply mean a shift in dynamics and types of fuel used...


Free energy would in fact change a lot. We have not seen a working business model yet of this device however so lets be objective, if the forum member has a working model, we'll see a demonstration, unless big oil gets him in the nick of time.

1n0s

Morgenster

Quote from: onesnzeros on May 22, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
Just imagine how bad it would be if they didn't drink milk.....

1n0s

By Quinn's logic Babies are delivered by storks then? Since there's a proven direct linear relationship between the amount of storks and the amount of births over a large number of communities.

Glassglue

Quote from: onesnzeros on May 23, 2008, 07:19:15 AM
Free energy would in fact change a lot. We have not seen a working business model yet of this device however so lets be objective, if the forum member has a working model, we'll see a demonstration, unless big oil gets him in the nick of time.

1n0s


No, free energy would change everything.  As I mentioned earlier, a life form that could take advantage of free energy would dominate the earth.  As someone else mentioned robots could use it to reproduce themselves almost without limit (von neuman machines?).  What kind of weapons would we develop? Where would all of the heat go that this free energy eventually became? Because u know if there were no limits on the amount we could have then we would use A LOT.  In fact human history would indicate that we would use more and more until we finally reached a point where there was some negative consequence.  I don't have the imagination to extrapolate the consequences of unlimited energy, but I don't think these folks have a clue either.  De-nutting big oil and putting some people out of work would be nothing.  No clue.

It would be such a fundamental change to the physics of the universe that it is difficult to imagine.  And I don't really think it is going to happen as a result of an egomaniac getting together with some magnets a bicycle wheel and a generator in his basement, as romantic as that may sound.