Roll on the 20th June

[INGUES]

sorry its taking so long

never uploaded a vid to youtube

it should be up some time

not sure when

Hi redriderno22,

Is this your youtube channel:  http://www.youtube.com/user/redriderno22 

I figure I can keep checking the youtube channel for the upload rather than use up overunity.com's bandwidth.

Thanks,
INGUES

[INGUES]

redriderno22,

I just saw the video, you can really see it take off when it reaches the top magnets.  I would love to see it in action though (FIX THE AXL!). 

Either way this is still very exciting.  Thanks for the video! 

INGUES

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
Yes you have to fix the axel, I havn't seen anything work yet all I can see is you pushing the rod up and ofcause it will move if one side is wieghted more then the other but I didn't see the rod slide up with the repelling magnet like I said only you pushing it up, using my hands to do the work like that I can make any magnet setup spin by lifting the stator magnet up and down.
Take Care All
Graham

[Groundloop]

@legendre,

Since the first system is relatively easy to understand, we can cut to the chase and look at the second. The motor and magnets are just for illustrative purposes, so we'll look directly at the system which you propose.

If you were able to create a zone from 7 o'clock to 3 o'clock where all external forces were canceled and thus produced no net torque on the rotor (in this case, an arm) then this system would experience a net positive acceleration, and increase in speed to the physical limits of the system.

Unfortunately, such a system cannot be constructed. Both gravitational and magnetic fields are conservative; neither are sources of energy nor can they perform useful work. You give a little, you get a little.. and vice-versa.

If you want to look at your example another way, shift the rotor to the horizontal plane, and replace gravity vs. magnetism with magnetism vs. magnetism. And as you well know, you're going to get stuck at that pesky 'sticky point'; always under assault, but never surpassed.

The sticky point exists for a good reason.. nature is a mindful accountant, or so it seems. You have to get up very early in the morning to fool nature, possibly before morning ever dawns.

Not like we don't have a few tricks up our sleeves, but this example isn't among them.

-L

My question was not that of free energy or not. My question was if there will be a decreased, increased or the same power usage in the electric motor.

If I understand your answer correct then because of the magnetic sticky point there will be an increased power usage?

Groundloop.

[sm0ky2]

I would suspend the 2 gates on ropes.
of equal mass. and when one gate is closed, the bottom of the upper gate sits at least twice the height of the lower gate.

you have a counter-weight, which you can flip back and forth from a rope at a distance, as wel as release the gate locks
the gates raise and close each other, and lock into place so when ones down, you cant lift its weight.

the momentum of the moving gates operates to lift the counterweight to the top. where it flips away and the gate locks in the upper position.