Roll on the 20th June

[Rise of Raven]

If I'v read all the information correct it will be the mass of the wheel that gives it the ability to turn a generator correct? Because if there isnt any mass to the wheel a simple light weight wheel turning wont be able to turn anything much less a generator with a load on it, the weight on the rods just keeps the system moving and the magnets just move the rods to provide the constant imbalance correct?

[oak]

If I'v read all the information correct it will be the mass of the wheel that gives it the ability to turn a generator correct? Because if there isnt any mass to the wheel a simple light weight wheel turning wont be able to turn anything much less a generator with a load on it, the weight on the rods just keeps the system moving and the magnets just move the rods to provide the constant imbalance correct?

The mass of the wheel (including the mass of the rod weights) has to be sufficient (in terms of momentum) to push the lower rod magnet well into the field of the lower (repulsive) stator magnets.  If the mass is not sufficient, the repulsion of the lower stator magnets will simply stop the wheel from turning.

[ETA:  Sorry, I did not see at first that you were talking about turning a generator.]

[kude]

@redriderno22

Regarding the axle, I bought a couple of bearings with a 1/4" I.D. at Ace Hardware. I bought a mandrel with 1/4" diameter shaft. A mandrel is a device like a drill bit but with a screw at the end that holds round sand paper disks. I mounted the bearings to to the edge of a board, put a clamp over the bearings to hold them in place. The mandrel then slides into the bearings and there is a shaft nut and a thin walled bushing that goes on the end to hold the shaft in place on the bearings.

I tried to find bearing bushing blocks blocks locally. This is an internet source:  http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/CTGY/1-4inchLinearMotionSystems  I think they also sell axles, if not a 1/4" rod should do. If you are going to build in the meter range, then upgrade the bearings used to a larger diameter.

I found your use of copper weights interesting and it. It made me think that since you want to drive a dc generator/motor anyway, why not use one as the axle point. I mean you have the bearings there already mounted. Also with the motor aspect, you can start the spin and then switch to generation.

I have to say that the term perpetual motion machine is stupid. All machines break down. What can be made here is a device to enhance the number of rotations. To me, what is being built is a gravitationally enhanced flywheel. Now if you can store Energy in it derived from wind or solar and draw efficient Energy from it when those two aren't providing then something has been accomplished.

I was reading uo on the element Ho. It magnetic properties are interesting. It's magnetic field can be focused. It absorbs neutrons and aids in biologocal metabloism. It struck me on how much we don't know about the material world we live in. If Faraday figured out magnets can create current in copper wires (a wow moment IMHO), what else is possible.

I suspect the device proposed on this thread will need to built to withstand the imbalances, but I will be looking at the models and final product and we will all know what's what.

[Rise of Raven]

The mass of the wheel (including the mass of the rod weights) has to be sufficient (in terms of momentum) to push the lower rod magnet well into the field of the lower (repulsive) stator magnets.  If the mass is not sufficient, the repulsion of the lower stator magnets will simply stop the wheel from turning.

[ETA:  Sorry, I did not see at first that you were talking about turning a generator.]

Yes in terms of turning a generator. Another poster mentioned the worry of being able to come up with the right weight combinations to get the wheel to spin 360 degrees  constant , ok thats the first part, then he said once you put a load on , it will cause the wheel to stop because of the load and it would cause the balance to be off , my answer was just to make sure it had enough mass no matter what load you applied to it after it got spinning so thats a simple fix. Obviously its easier to stop a bicycle with your foot than it is a car, and that because of the mass difference, thats why weight/mass should have a lot to do with it if you want this thing to work.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
To me and I could be wrong the mass of the wheel doesn't matter because as Archer said and he was right it takes a small weight to move a big one or a slight inbalance and that brings us back to what I said in my last post, the weight has to be perfect unless and I think Archer knows this you use an electromagnet, this is why he brought an electromagnet into his system now with an electromagnet you can use more weight and just increase the current to move the bigger weight so now you can have a load and increase the current to match your load but now you have a new problem how do you get that energy back every turn to make it OU and from what I know I can't see how you can do this.
Take Care All
Graham