Roll on the 20th June

[exxcomm0n]

@ infringer

No worries man. I'm rather anxious to see one myself.

I plan to take it in steps with a time deadline for each. With the amount of info we have we should be able to replicate this in short order.

1.) Make the wheel spin continuously using the proposed magnetic movement.
2.) Minimize the amount of power necessary to keep the wheel moving respectably.
3. ) Attach a load (preferably  the electromag draw +) to the wheel.
4.) Try to make the wheel  support the energy draw of the electromags BY producing movement under load.
5.) Apply
6.) Lather
7.) Rinse
8.) Repeat as necessary.....or until I get fed up.

I don't care if he knows and is not telling me.
I don't care if he's lying and wasting my time.
I care about knowing and I'll only get that by trying.

I care about having fun ( that has a socially redeeming upside!).

Wait and see, or DIY posters.

I'll not post teasers, I'll post content. How often that will happen is anyones guess.

Materials:

1.) Cardboard disc 1' (.30 meter)
2.) Pin (But a new collared shirt and you get many of these.)
3.) Drinking straws
4.) 10 penny nails
5.) magnet wire
6.) Ne magnets of varying sizes and strengths
7.) q-tips or cocktail straws (for rods)
8.) AAA battery?

The materials and form may have changed, the motivation stays the same.

It has to turn by itself, then I have to build another one and make that turn.
THEN I get to see how to make it more than a toy.

Keep thinking though! No one said good ideas come in a specific order

[dixiepnum]

Does anyone know what will make this different than any other historical gravity wheel?

Can anyone summarize how imbalances create energy?

If the magnets are just batteries that store and use energy to lift the weights from 7 to 1, there is no new energy being created. What am I missing?

I have a very open mind, please don't shoot me! We don't have a final working prototype yet, so can someone hypothesize which key component is going to make this thing tick?

merci beaucoup!

[b0rg13]

Does anyone know what will make this different than any other historical gravity wheel?

Can anyone summarize how imbalances create energy?

If the magnets are just batteries that store and use energy to lift the weights from 7 to 1, there is no new energy being created. What am I missing?

I have a very open mind, please don't shoot me! We don't have a final working prototype yet, so can someone hypothesize which key component is going to make this thing tick?

merci beaucoup!

G r a v i t y

[infringer]

Muah!

Read the full thread I think you will get the idea how it works if you do enough reading or how it is supposed to work we are keeping this thing unbalanced with magnets... At 12:00:01 technically anything at that or below will fall forward 1:00 is simply an easier point to tune to or around 1:00 at this moment the rod gets pulled up and the excess weight hanging over the magnetic plane provides just enough leverage to break the magnetic plane as it falls the magnets are further away  the exact opposite of 1 oclock is 7 oclock once 1 oclock is past the magnets move further away thus the rod retracts...

Watch redriderno22's video that is all I can say you get the idea on how it works then it makes since to me once 1 end of the rod makes it to 7 oclock the other end is at 1 oclock again woot think a little both ends retract and detract !!!! so technically we will always have the fall from 1 oclock to 7 oclock thus prepetual motion is achived!

It makes perfect since when you think of it at 1 oclock a rod  is retractated giving it mor force for a little over 1 hour and that force is what is needed to make it to the magic roughly a little past 2 or at 2 oclock it decends quickly as the magnets lose all pull but we have gained momentum we need to make it to 7 oclock which is really the magic number! because then the other side of the device will be at 1 oclock where we gain our momentum once again

Make since gravity oh gravity!!!

Or think of it this way half of the clock is falling and the other half is rising so it should always be a fall from 12 oclock and 1 second to 6 oclock which is the resting place!!! Even conventional science tells us that but there is a buildup of momentum due to extra wieght. We will never reach terminal velocity with this wheel so any speedup will induce a further push and if there is a 1 hour extra push it should give us what we need to reach the magical 7 oclock spot...

It take a little bit to take it all in really it does it didnt make logical since to me untill recently really but it does now...
While I want to get the point accross that I make no gaurentees as I am no science or engineering genius I guess I dont need to be to say it sounds logical to me...

Excomm only you bud only you roflmao give me a paper clip rubber bands and rolos and I could conquer the world rofl!
Good stuff!

Redriderno22 no big deal man your doing a mighty excellent job I just didnt want people popping out of the woodwork being confused about the weight does not matter statement...

Archer how grand of you to make yet another appearance to the forums however the appearance was a little short lived stop by and keep us company for a while when it rains shit hell piss J/K I know your rather busy but just a shout out..

Archer all puns intended when I say I think this post will get peoples wheels turning!!!!

-infringer-

[capthook]

with coild on the wheel at the rear and an adjacent plate with the correct north south north south array of magnets a cuurnet is produced with no friction at all.

1. Lentz's law (you know? the more current you draw - the more the resistance?)
(but then again - Lentz's is probably as stupid as Newton?  )
2. Eddy Currents
3. Hysteresis
4. Air resistance (due to your coils on the wheel - better to put the MAGS on the wheel - still 'friction' , but smaller)

so there's FOUR........

Or maybe you should design a car - forget about the engine - just build the body....
Ooops - the engine compart is too small for the large engine to move the heavy body.
Scrap it all - start over.....etc etc etc

If the goal is OU - and you are using electromagnets - you must produce more power than you consume.  Thus - power generation is a primary concern......

But yes - building a toy to prove the concept is a good first step - but why ignore the primary objective?  And why should others build a 'toy' version - that you "built 2 years ago" - when your objective (before you quit on it) was to build a practical device - thats NOT a toy?

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