elemental rod

[Koen1]

Well anything is possible, but it seems to me that that would add up to 3 different elements,
and that's not even close to 73/74.

Besides that, I do not see the guy in that Youtube video prove that he's got a negative resistor at all...
He does repeat several times, not just in that specific vid but also in some others, that "all batteries
are negative resistors" and that is just not true.
Seems to me he just has a flawed idea of what a negative resistor really is.
A normal resistor is an elecronic component that transduces electrical current into heat,
adding resistance to an electrical circuit, and causing the electrical output to be lower
than the input, whereas the thermal output is higher than the input.
A negative resistor would have these qualities in the negative, meaning that it should
transduce heat into elecrical current directly, lowering the resistance of the circuit,
and causing the electrical output to be higher than the input, whereas the thermal output
of the component should be lower than the input. Which basically means it absorbs
energy from the environment in the form of heat, thereby cooling the direct environment,
and adding this energy to the electrical energy in the system, increasing the output.

In a chemical battery, the galvanic reaction between the components is temperature
dependant up to a degree, but inputting energy into the battery does not cool down
the surroundings, and the thermal input is not tranduced into electricity, it simply
allows the chamical reaction to occur.
In resistor components, no chemical reactions take place, it is all electrodynamics.
In a battery, it is all galvanics, all chemical reactions. And they stop when the components
have all reacted.
So a battery is not a negative resistor. It is a temporary current source, yes. But not
a negative resistor. If it were, you could input some energy into the battery and always get out
more than you put in, plus the battry would actively cool the environment.

With a negative resistor, you could make a current-producing refrigerator.
A negative resistor is an over-unity device. A battery is not.

In the follow-up video where the guy "tests" his "negative resistor" he doesn't make
any sense at all...
First he points out he's got some acidic solution in which he's put his "cell", which
consists of the carbon coated steel rod inside a stainless steel tube. Then he shows a
voltage reading on the rod and the tube at 0.85V and dropping. That's not surprising,
he's got carbon and steel in acid, he's getting galvanic voltage output.
Then he hooks up a 10V battery and shows the voltage go up to 10V.
Then he disconnects the battery and shows the voltage reading drop to 1.6V and dropping.
and then he concludes that he's got a negative resistor.
But what does he base that on?
On the simple fact that the voltage reading appears to double after he's just charged both
electrodes with 10V? After a 10V charge applied to two pieces of steel seperated by a layer
of carbon, is it really that surprising that a remnant of about 0.8V is not immediately dissipated?
I don't think so.
Besides, he does not measure amperage at all.
You can't really say much about the actual energy input vs output if you only look at the volts.

All in all I do not see any negative resistor behaviour in his videos.
I do not see his carbon coated rod produce energy from nowhere, nor do I see
him for example inputting 1V at 1mA and getting output of 2V at 1mA, which would
indeed be a negative resistor style energy increase.
I do see him perform a very simple galvanic reaction and getting overexcited at a voltage reading.

[Drossen]

@Koen1

I agree that the device in the video is not a negative resistor.  However, I would like to clarify that, in the follow-up video, the liquid was water, not acid.  It is a water capacitor used in a water fuel cell for HHO gas production.

[Bob Smith]

@Koen1
Thanks for the detailed analysis on my post.

Do you or anyone else think the elemental rod generator has something to do with resonance?
B

[Koen1]

To be honest, too little clear info is available on the rod device
to make any educated guesses as to how it works...
Interpretations along different lines of reasoning have been
put forth, such as an "electrinium" interpretation which in its
own way does involve resonance and harmonic frequencies, but
the "theory" of electrinium has some "impurities" of its own and,
in my opinion, omits certain aspects of material electrodynamics
making it flawed. ("close but no cigar" type idea )

I suspect an intricate electrodynamic coherence is produced in
the atomic "crystal" lettice/matrix of the rods, micro- or nano-
layering various different elements to produce a form of diode-like
rectification both on the atomic level and between the rods themselves,
which allows the rods to absorb several wavelengths of incoming photons
(probably in the microwave and infrared regions, possibly all over the spectrum)
as well as ion charges from the surrounding air, while the accumulated
charge is shuttled back and forth between the rods.
This shuttling could aid conversion into AC output, and it could assist the
absorption function of the rods (as rectification tends to work best when there
are oscillations to rectify, and oscillations can be used in a sort of "pump"
action to "suck" charges up and "pump" them out of a capacitor)...

But that's just an educated guess.

I can imagine someone designing such a device so that the frequency
in which the charges are shuttled/oscillated are in harmony with the
wavelengths of photons intended to be absorbed as well as the exact
size, distance and elemental composition of the entire 2-rod setup.
As the Japanese ads from a few years ago showed the device inside
a seemingly specially made transparent cover, and the only other videos
I've seen them on also showed them in use in air, I suspect the air plays
a role in its function. After all, if not, they could have shown that it also
works under water, but nobody ever did so as far as I know... So that
means that either it doesn't work under water because the rods need the
interaction with air, or the device contains electronic circuitry which cannot
stand water.
I suspect a bit of both. I think circuitry was used to maintain oscillations
and transform output to a usefull format, and the rods use some interaction
with the surrounding air as part of their energy absorption "mechanism".

Oh, and it is of course possible that the rods themselves contain crystalline
lettice zones with oscillator characteristics.
A so-called "piezo" component is nothing more than a piece of crystalline
quartz shaped and sized so that it has a very specific oscillation frequency,
and when some current is applied such components are commonly used as
oscillators. It is possible that one of the microlayers or -zones in the rods
consists of such an oscillator 'crystal' material in the form of a compound
of several elements.
And it is even possible that the circuitry "picks up" on this oscillation
and "links up" with it by harmononeous resonant oscillation, thereby
enhancing the coupling between the energy movement in the rods
and that in the output circuit.

And then there's a few other possible interpretations...

So there's all kinds of speculative explanations but without any
additional info I'm afraid we'll get stuck at guessing what's going on
with the rods.

[zapnic]

jee jee quick google search
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http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/message/23885