This many people can't be this crazy

[tmpcbtc]

Ok,
So I posted a reasonable question on this forum and had my post deleted.
I don't see logically, why, you can't connect two SMOT's in a loop...if a ball is forced upward any distance and then can drop into free fall (as many claim to be true), then why could you not loop the system?
I look at this forum and I see unlimited hope but also, seemingly unlimited folly.

If human beings have not been able to make a working overunity device in all of human history, why would any attempts be successful now?

Look, we don't need an overunity device, people just need an effective way to create power without burning fossil fuels or using nuclear power so we don't all die from the after-effects.

Even with a combination of say solar panels and some kind of bicycle style generator, if you could spend an hour a day riding the bike to generate enough electricity for the day, it would be enough.

Obviously, this must not work in practice, because no one does it.

Or how about a wind generator you could put on your property. This obviously wouldn't work for people in a city.

Obviously, NONE of the ideas talked about on this forum work, or the device in question would be put into production immediately. How long can you all go on talking about nothing?

If anyone here had any kind of system, overunity or not, that could power a house and then some on a daily basis, I would buy it, anyone would buy it. Why doesn't someone focus on a practical system?

[utilitarian]

Ok,
So I posted a reasonable question on this forum and had my post deleted.
I don't see logically, why, you can't connect two SMOT's in a loop...if a ball is forced upward any distance and then can drop into free fall (as many claim to be true), then why could you not loop the system?
I look at this forum and I see unlimited hope but also, seemingly unlimited folly.

If human beings have not been able to make a working overunity device in all of human history, why would any attempts be successful now?

Look, we don't need an overunity device, people just need an effective way to create power without burning fossil fuels or using nuclear power so we don't all die from the after-effects.

Even with a combination of say solar panels and some kind of bicycle style generator, if you could spend an hour a day riding the bike to generate enough electricity for the day, it would be enough.

Obviously, this must not work in practice, because no one does it.

Or how about a wind generator you could put on your property. This obviously wouldn't work for people in a city.

Obviously, NONE of the ideas talked about on this forum work, or the device in question would be put into production immediately. How long can you all go on talking about nothing?

If anyone here had any kind of system, overunity or not, that could power a house and then some on a daily basis, I would buy it, anyone would buy it. Why doesn't someone focus on a practical system?

The catch is, the ball is not in freefall when it drops.  The magnets still tug on it, so you cannot do anything useful with the ball until it drops far enough, and then you cannot do anything useful with it because it is too low.  Just try it.  An experiment is worth a million explanations.  A great scientist once said something to the effect of, "If you think you have discovered something revolutionary, something no one else has been able to achieve, stop, review the experiment, and find your mistake."  I think those are wise words.

Solar is still too expensive, and an hour a day of human power is nowhere near enough to provide energy for the rest of the day.  I like the idea of pedaling to power a PC, etc., but it would have to be an efficient laptop, and then, you could only generate just enough to power the laptop - nothing else.

You are right in that there are no working overunity devices.  Maybe you will be the first to discover one.

[z.monkey]

Howdy,

Your right, in todays world any form of FE/OU would get confiscated by some alphabet soup agency or (worse) some rich industrialist.  There is a time coming soon when they would will be open to these technologies.  This is when the fossil fuel runs out.  Then there is a massive demand for alternative energy products and ideas.  Those of you who know and are in a position to capitalize on this opportunity will become wealthy.  This is the perfect opportunity to start a technology company.  Like in the first days of the automobile, the people who realized that the automobile would be a very good selling product, plus it had service needs, very lucrative.  The Alternative Energy Generator market is looking very lucrative to me.

Lets peek into the future, say in 2023, a couple years after the fossil fuel runs out.  Gasoline is history.  Alternative Energy Generators are providing an increasing share of power generation for homes and businesses.  As the market for power is shifting toward the Alternative Energy Generators from the Centralized Power Generation and Transmission Line Delivery method of supplying energy, we actually see the Power Companies dismantling their old school generators and transmission lines in order to supply copper to the Micro Generator Industry as they call it.  Since the increase of Small Alternative Energy Generator Businesses the small businesses dominate the power generation market because of their free market ingenuity and the power of honest capitalism.  There is a need to install a generator in every home, and maintain it.  This creates a massive influx of technological jobs.  Also this increases to awareness of energy production and all the issues relating to to energy production such as safely utilizing power and environmental concerns.  Our future cars could be reworked gasoline vehicles which burn HHO, or all electric cars like the Tesla Roadster which are all electric and powered by a Alternative Energy Generator.

Again, your right about the technology being 100 years old.  These energy devices work on electrical physics principles and are not about sophistication.  Looks at Tesla's radiant power devices, or Moray's radiant power device, both had pure electrical physics theory down perfectly.  Both devices worked perfectly.  Both totally suppressed.  In Tesla's case more than 100 years old.

You have to keep in mind that we have the future.  Oil is doomed by it's own nature.  Its valuable, so its worth going to war over.  The small scale Alternative Energy Generators are a realistic alternative to oil because when the oil runs out, we can build Alternative Energy Generators with our own hands.  This is a big advantage, ever try to make gasoline?

OK, Mo Later...

[tmpcbtc]

I appreciate your responses.

It seems to me, that a lot of people have been able to develop extremely efficient magnet motors/wheels of some kind, none of them overunity, but very efficient.

Ok, so how many watts of power can be produced by a person riding a bicycle-style generator?
If you used a magnetic-bearing wheel of some kind in tandem with human input, couldn't that make an extremely efficient generator?

I see an easy way to end unemployment and produce excess electricity: Make human-energy power plants. I wouldn't mind getting paid for sitting and turning a crank all day.

What is the highest degree of efficiency that anyone has made a human powered generator?

[jeanna]

well,
I just bought a bike generator.
Now, I admit I haven't tried it out yet.
(too much stuff in the shed still ).

Now, the manufacturer says that a good average is 200 watts per 45 minutes ride. So, I could ride while I watch a video on a battery operated dvd player or sing along with a battery operated cd player while the led's are burning bright in my place and still have plenty to spare.

We need to practice living with less power wastage. Simple.

It's not going to happen with wall sized HDTV's all over the place, though.

jeanna

IMHO, Anybody that owns a wall sized HDTV IS that crazy.