I don't want to sound like a jerk...

[acp]

Hi jack,

A very interesting thread, your work looks fantastic.

I too have thought about wether the fridge magnet is doing work or not, if I glue a block of copper to the fridge, is that the same as the magnet? is that also doing "work" or not? It seems to me that it's not. Rationally, I believe the magnet isn't doing work when it's stuck to the fridge. But instinctively,on the other hand it seems the magnet has some kind of energy! I just don't know.

But if your motor works as you say, then the magnets are an energy source.

[_GonZo_]

Hello _GonZo_,

Well one more attempt.    You menchend that a rop would be considered to do work if it were holding the 50 lb weight.   Well you are wrong again.  In order for the rope to hold the 50 lb weight up you would need to make a fisical connection from the weight to the rope, a knot or something.

Now using a magnet to hold up this weight there is no fisical connection to the weight.  Only an invisable field, that some call Gauss, however I prefer to call it a continous band of energy from the magnet.  This magnet holding up the weight with out a fisical connection is doing work.  Maybe the magnet isen't but the invisable field is.

Another way to look at it.   If you and I were working painting a house.  I picked up a 6 gallon of paint and asked you to hold it for me.  Now you did not pick it up or move it, you are just holding it up.   OK now I come back in about three hours, your still holding the paint, you never moved it just holding it up.   I just bet that with the swet poring off you forehead you would agree to me that was WORK.

You need to starting thinking for yourself and not pay so much attention to books that some proffesor wrought setting at a desk.  Yes there are definitions for energy, work, power, and all else.  Just because some proffesor give things a deffinition that does not allways mean they are accurate. It sometimes pays to think outside the box.

That fridg magnet holding up a picture is doing work.  Maybe not by your standards or some proffesors standards,  But by my standards.  One thing that is allways denied is the fact that a magnet is in itself perpetuial motion.
The magnetic field that continues to rotate around and into a magnet never stops.  You never need to input energy to it to keep it going, it just keeps on moving buy itself.  All you need to do is lasso that energy, put it to work, and you have free energy.

Hi Jack,

Lets forget the discusion about the magnet on the fridge, it is going to take us no place...
And indepently of what is correct or not it is not going to change the way your motor works.

I am not sure because you have not confirmed that this is the system you use to "swich off" the magnets in your motor, but following links I found a drawing very clarifing about it (see atachement)

Actually it is a very interesting fisics problems because it looks like it produces 3.47 times more force than the no magnets system, with the same electrical input, it looks like it is violating the second law, but actually it is not. So there is no magic involved in the experimet.

So I think that using this property looks like it is posible to encrease the eficiency of a motor or other devices.

Jack I am starting to think that you have a very interesting motor in your hands, can you enter in more detail about it please?

[Liberty]

GonZo,

The Flynn example of magnetic force that you have there, works with attracting a ferromagnetic metal.  The magnetic balance using a coil is a delicate balance in this device.  If you use this device on a magnet based rotor, it would be harder to maintain this magnetic flux balance with the coil, because the magnetic field from the rotor passing by would vary the magnetic balance in the device when the magnet from the rotor comes around.  I believe that this is why Flynn uses this device only on a steel rotor in his motors.

[Liberty]

Jack,

Have you tried using 'netic' metal which is commonly used for magnetic shielding for your lamenated core?  I wonder if it would be of any help in the operation of your magnetic valve?

Liberty

[Elvis Oswald]

Jack,

As the thread progresses (sounds like a soap opera, huh?) I see that you are indeed sincere.  I openly and wholeheartedly apologize for any bad vibes I put off in the beginning.  But with all the scams and false claims out there... I can't take all the blame. 

I've been interested in Leedskalnin's work for about a year now.  Though he did not reveal directly his secrets... I do believe that by replicating his work, I might progress beyond what is apparent in his writings.

The posting on Keely.net by emory - about the perpetual motion holder - is full of wild speculation about the device being alive and superconductivity.  I'm surprised that no one could see the obvious.
The device simply keeps the magnetic current flowing in the u-shaped magnet as long as the 'loop' is closed with the iron bar.  The light is a result of the collapsing magnetic field when the bar is removed.
I think Emory got off on the tangent when he assumed that electricity was being stored in the coils - but that is not the case.

There is another device that Leedskalnin describes that I think might be related to what you are doing.  This special construction improves the strength of an electromagnet.  Your device might be something similiar with a permanent magnet in the core.
I'll have to think long and hard about your valve... but magnetism can be removed with electric current... but without tinkering, I can't think of a way to do that without actually moving the wire or the magnet.

Leedskalnin described magnetic current as the flow of tiny monopoles.  A magnet channels these monopoles, and they circulate through and out one pole and back into the other.  This flow can be started, stopped, increased, decreased, etc.
So your device is actually utilizing these monopoles as an energy source.  That's 'free energy' - rather than 'overunity.'

For the people who have said that magnets do not do work... they should look inside any DC motor.