Hilsch Vortex Tube Construction (Mechanical to Heat)

[einmann]

 @ Smoey2


An idea that you ay want to incorperate into your vortex tube is adding expansion chambers on the cold side it does slow down airflow however much colder temps can be reached also the addition of micro tubes will increse the heat on the hot side and increase air flow rate A friend of mines daughter won her science fair utilizing those concepts and a navy scholrship to boot. THe hilsch rngue vortex tube is defiantly a fav of mine.


John

[sm0ky2]

that's great information John, thanks.

what is the 'micro tube' ? and how would that incorporate into the design above?

expansion on the cold end should be a simple task, im thinking just before the nozzle. have the pipe open into a larger pipe, then concentrate down through the nozzle.  that or a chamber, small pipe off the other end, then the nozzle.

[fleebell]

 I think it would be a pretty good  way to supply current for charging some batteries, very few moving parts!  Hook one of the compressor type wind turbines  to a tank with a valve that kicks on at a certain psi and runs till it runs low on air and then shuts off.  It would then just cycle on it's own without having to bother with it.  Hook the modules to a charge controller and forget about it except for maintaining the turbine compressor and they can run a long time normally without breakdowns at the slow speed a wind turbine normally turns them. It wouldn't be 'over unity' but it would be green  and would be 'free energy'  once the cost of the materials were paid back.
Lee
www.packratworkshop.com

The purpose is this was to be used as part of another system, the idea was such that this tube was to be connected to an Air tank, run by a compressor, and both output ends of the tube fed through an array of Peltier devices, utilizing the temperature difference to run the compressor.

i dont know much about the efficiency of the device, except by observing the data presented by other makers of the device, already on the market.  Nor do i know wether or not such a looped thermal-electro system would be "overunity".

i simply provided a means by which those who want one of these devices can go about making their own to experiment with. - and not have to throw away $150-600 purchasing one .

here is a link to the thread in which it is being discussed.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4571.0.html

[sm0ky2]

@ fleeball, that seems like a long route to get to where you're going.

wind -> turbine -> compressor -> hilsch tube -> peltier -> battery.

why not just wind turbine -> battery?

[fleebell]

Well mainly because the setup could use any number of sources for compressed air all at the same time.  I have been working on something like this for a while but  my original plan was to use a small radial air motor to turn an alt.  This would take out some more moving mechanical parts from the equation.  It would allow small wind turbine compressors or other slower sources such as a solar hot water powered compressor to fill the tank before it ever cut in so the power out would be maximum when operating and the batteries would get a better charging setup instead of a little here and a little there...    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the topic here at all.  I just think the Hilsch tube and peltier modules would work well for this. It wouldn't be a real powerful charger but it should keep a couple of batteries charged for use.... I planned to use the original setup to charge my electric assist trike.  There will be a number of different inputs fed into the charge controller from various projects including a few small savonius turbines and alternators.  I figure if I keep added small power sources they will eventually add up to a real usable supply.
Lee
www.packratworkshop.com