David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[Dbowling]

 I had something that was working and now it does not. Eventually all of my batteries run down. I don't know why it worked in the first place and so I don't know how to fix it. All I can do is try to set up the same kind of experiment I had in the beginning and use different motors and batteries. So far I have not been able to get back that magic I had for about two weeks. It is incredibly frustrating. I don't blame many of you for giving up on this when you're getting the kind of results I'm getting right now. I won't give up. I've seen it work. I had video of it working and of the batteries charging. I think it's still on the tape in my camera as a matter of fact, and if it is, anyone is welcome to a copy of it who would like it. I will check tonight to see. I had a seperate volt meter on each battery. I don't know if it will do you any good, because I have given out all the information I have, and I no longer have a working model to take any kinds of readings or measurements from. I thought it was such an amazingly simple thing that I took it apart and loaned batteries to other people for them to construct one, and now I realize I had the perfect combination of things that made it work. If I ever get it working again, I will be back here. In the middle of all this I made a move from Arizona to California, and I haven't really got my shop set up here to experiment again, but I intend to. I know what I saw. I know it worked. I don't have to operate on faith like you do. So I will NOT give up. I will look for that video, and if I find it, put it on u-tube or something and link to it so you can all see it.

[Dbowling]

There is one final thing that popped into my mind tonight. I don't think anyone has successfully duplicted what I had in my set up. And I don't think it has anything to do with motors or wires or anything. I am pretty sure it has to do with battery number three. Go back and read my original description of my original experiment. When I flipped the switch on my original setup, nothing happened. Battery 3 was too low or SOMETHING to complete a circuit. In about 10 to 15 minutes the motor suddenly started. The whole thing ran until all three batteries were at about 14.7 to 15 volts, and then it shut off BY ITSELF!. WHY? WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY,WHY? When someone can get that arrangement of three batteries and a motor to replicate THIS PART of the experiment, they will have the solution to making it work. Right now, I CAN'T get it to do this. Battery number 3 would slowly lose power, and when it got low enough, the motor would kick back on and the whole thing would repeat. It did this over and over and over and over again. THIS IS THE KEY. What was there about battery number three that would shut the motor off when it was fully charged? Is that even logical? It happened. And I'm sure that is the answer to making this thing work again. Someone out there who understands batteries will have to figure this part out. I know it is beyond me, and battery number 3 didn't even belong to me. I had to give it back to the guy it belonged to. He is in Arizona and has given up on this. I am in California and will NOT give up. By the way, I borrowed battery number three from him again and tried to replicate the whole experiment again, and it would NOT work. The motor just continued to run until the batteries were too low to power it. The motor never shut off.

[AbbaRue]

I have heard some say that a battery is a negative resistor.
Well maybe in a certain chemical state a battery does function as a negative resistor.
Lead Sulfide is a semiconductor.
So maybe this is what happened in the dead battery, but after continued use the chemical combination was destroyed.

I still think someone should try making a very simple battery out of a few lead plates and some sulfuric acid.
Just use 2 plates per cell and connect them in series to get 12 volts.
A 2 plate battery would charge and discharge very quickly, like a battery that won't hold a charge.

[Groundloop]

@Dbowling,

A totally drained and "dead" battery has a high internal resistance. The battery has high internal resistance because almost all of the lead plates is covered with led sulfide. Now you connect the motor and no high current can flow because of the resistance. After some time some few areas of the battery plates will be in contact with the water/acid and a little charge will be gained. Then the internal resistance will drop a lot and now the current is free to flow. The motor starts to run. Then after a while the battery will gain more and more charge just like a capacitor and the voltage over the battery will reach a high enough  voltage so the the motor will stop. The motor can only run when there is a voltage difference over the motor terminals. This was the easy part to understand. The hard part to understand is WHY all three batteries did charge up. Also, why did battery three (the "dead" one) slowly loose charge again? If it was connected to the motor and the motor did not run then there is a path for the current through the motor and to the third battery. It should not have drained again. This is the second part that I do not understand.

Groundloop.

[nvisser]

Hi all
I`m new
I only stumbled upon this charging device 2 days ago while reading about the bedini(Jim Watson) generator on the panacea website and was referred to David bowling
This is the most brilliant configuration I ever saw as it does not kill the dipole.
All the current drawn by the motor or whatever load you put into that specific location where the motor sits has to go to the GOOD flat battery which will charge with that same amount of current drawn by the motor and so recover all the energy used to run the motor
I cannot see that an extra load anywhere else will work properly
In my 2 days test I used 3  good similar 18aH batteries.
The voltage lost on the 2 good batteries is about the same as the voltage gain on the flat battery and then we got the extra energy of the motor which can be used to drive a Jim Watson type of generator. A big flywheel  with a lot of magnets and some coils in series that generate ac (100volts or more), a bridge rectifier ,   a  capacitor bank and a relay that dumps the 100v volts onto the driving batteries (1 & 2) or maybe used to charge another battery bank that drives an inverter.
Looks like over unity to me!!!
Off cause the flat battery has to be replaced when it is fully charged
I have not reached the point where battery 3 is higher in voltage then the other 2  but I suppose that the voltage over the motor will drop ( 24v -12 =12v over the motor) or when batt3 is fully charged(13.8v) and bat1 &2 are say about 10v each( 20v-13.8 = 6v) which is a bit low to drive a large 12v motor to do some work
So I suppose the batteries has to be rotated all the time
By using 2 x 12v batteries in parallel  in position 3 it will be easy to change them into series when they are fully charged and switch the 2 run down batteries 1& 2 into parallel and make them battery 3 to be charged. They could then be switched by relay( nearly like the tesla switch!) Maybe it is the Tesla switch but only gets switched ones or twice a day instead at 20 -100 Hz.  Maybe Mr Bedini can commend on this
I hope this thread will continue as I see the last posts was last year in November and there are definitely potential in this charger circuit and I hope Mr Bowling filed his patent
Also see the following:

----- Original Message -----
From: HENRY JOHNSON
To: Sterling D. Allan
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:46 AM
Subject: LATEST DEVELOPMENT

HI STERLING
LAST FRIDAY WE HAD THE OPERTUNITY TO RUN OUR PROTO TYPE MOTOR CONNECTED TO A MOPED @ THE FRANKENMUTH MI. HI-SCHOOL. THIS WAS MONITORED BY CHRIS PHILBRICK, AN ENGENEER @ THE VASSAR FOUNDRY, A SCIENCE ADVISOR, FOR INDEPENDANT ASSESMENT.

THIS 0.2 HP MOTOR, GENERATOR (WHICH WAS NEVER BUILT TO DO ANYTHIG, BUT RUN) POWERED A 300# MOPED AND RIDER 60 MUNITS. WHEN WE STOPPED THE BATTERIES WERE FULLY CHARGED.
CHRIS'S PHONE # 989 823 7452
RANDY BIERLEIN, OF SCHAFFER, BIERLEIN CHRYSLER WAS ALSO THERE. HIS # 989 751 3559. CALL THEM FOR THIER INDEPENDANT COMMENTS.LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
HENRY

From: Sterling D. Allan [mailto:sterlingda@pureenergysystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:20 PM
To:
Subject: TWM info

I phoned Chris Philbrick, who said that at T=0, the "positive" battery array of 4 12-V motorcycle started at 50.4 V, then ended at 42.5 V.  The "negative" array, also 4 bats in series, start: 49.3 V, ended at 51.6 V.  The moped was driven around the gym continuously for an hour. 210 HP motor, going around 6-8 mph.  8 batteries in all.

He said they did not do a control test to see how much energy it would take to do the same thing with a "normal" motor.

They will be doing some follow-up tests.

He said he was convinced there was "something to it."

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