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Overunity Machines Forum



David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

Started by sterlinga, April 30, 2008, 10:56:29 PM

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Dbowling

I just checked back today and saw that there is still some activity on this thread. Just so you know, I did not fall off the face of the earth or sell out to some big company. I went through some stuff the last year and a half, but I am back now, and trying to get this motor to work again. Last night I hooked up my circuit for the first time in a looooong long time. It still did not work, but my results were not what I expected. My motor got very hot and so did my wires, melting two of them. This was new. I tried a different battery in the third position and that problem disappeared, but while battery number three charged, one and two went down in voltage. I intend to continue switching out that third battery until I can find one that meets the conditions I had before.
1. It must be under 7 volts to begin with
2. It must accept a charge from a conventional charger
2. When fully charged with a conventional charger, it will not hold a charge
If I can find that, I will start to work on trying to see if there is something to the idea of tuning the motor to the batteries. I wwill keep at this for as long as it takes and report here if I make any progress.

nvisser

David
As you said somewhere, this is just a static tesla switch.
John Bedini joint a thread on the tesla switch and is actually giving tips on how to get it working. The fiirst circuit he posted is a lot like yours to explain the principal. See http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch-23.html#post74777
from page 23 post 446 and post 457- attatched thumbnail in the bottom.
What I picked up was that the only way for a 4 battery system to charge themself you need a very low voltage load (3-4v).

Dbowling

A day or so ago I was going through some old boxes of junk, and I came across my lab notes for my original experiment. It showed me some things I did not remember, and reinforced how incredibly important it is that we keep good notes.
The day we hooked this setup up for the first time, we used one motor. The second day, when we decided to get all scientific about it, we used a second motor that was totally different and much larger, so I am not convinced that the motor was as critical as I thought it was. I have the model number of BOTH motors in my notes if anyone is interested. I also scanned those notes as .jpg files for anybody who is interested. They can contact me at dbbowling@ hotmail.com and I would be happy to send them a copy. The fact that we used two different motors is the first important issue.


The second, and I believe much more critical issue, is that we originally used battery cables to connect all the batteries. When I was getting ready to take the device to California to meet with the patent attorney, I disassembled it and used 16 gauge wire to make those connections. I only took the motor and pulley device with me, along with a small roll of wire and end connectors, figuring I could get batteries in California and would not have to ship them. I purchased three of them in California, but the system did NOT work for my demonstration to the patent attorney. When I got BACK from California, I continued to use the 16 gauge wire on all my experiments and the thing never, ever worked again. I now believe that those battery cables were a critical element to the success of the device.


The third thing was the bad battery. I kept insisting that it was a battery that would take a charge but not hold it. Nowhere in my notes does it state that as a fact. It simply says that we charged three batteries overnight and when we went to use them, the third battery only showed  4.4 volts as measured on an analogue volt meter. So THAT is the battery we put in position number three.  In my notes it says that we charged the other two batteries to 12.2 volts each, but whether I meant 13.2 or what, I am not sure. I think we know that 12.2 is not a full charge, so I may have just made an error in writing it down. When we hooked everything up, nothing happened. We walked away, and in a few minutes (probably about 10-15) the motor suddenly came on. It ran for a while and shut off. We measured the voltage on battery number three between the positive and negative terminal. It was 24.3 volts, and it began to slowly go down. When it reached around 18 volts the motor started up and ran as the voltage continued to go lower. When it got to 8 volts the motor shut off and the voltage reading jumped immediately back up to the 24.2 volts and then began to go slowly down. When it reached 18 the motor started and ran until it reached 8 and then shut off. This repeated over and over while we ran the motor for over five hours, at the end of which, all three batteries had increased in charge. That was the end of the first day.


Now, in all the experiments I did over the next few days, I kept the charge on battery number 3 between that 8 and 18 volts. Either by putting a load on the motor or by hooking up devices that sucked power. As long as I did that, the thing would keep running.


I should also mention that the analogue meter we were using on the first day had a bad battery and was giving us faulty readings. I know this because on the second day I went out and bought three brand new meters so I could put one on each battery and they showed that our two source batteries were at around 12.9 volts when our original meter showed 12.2. Which means that pretty much NONE of this original data is very accurate. Sorry about that. But the new meters WERE on the batteries when we performed the experiment on the second day that almost blew up the batteries because we overcharged them, and all of the tests I ran after this I used the three meters I purchased to record results, so I am pretty sure they were accurate. Or else all three meters were bad.


I hope this information is beneficial to anyone who stumbles on this thread. With this information in hand, I am going back to the drawing board and see what happens. I have a few "bad" batteries and I am going to see if I can get the initial experiment to repeat...where I hook the motor up and nothing happens for about ten minutes and then the motor starts up. If I can get THAT to happen, I believe I have the RIGHT combination. Wish me luck, because I will certainly SHARE when I figure this all out.

FatBird

Hello David,

Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing your findings.  Please continue to do so.

Can you also post a circuit diagram & those JPG pictures here on Overunity.

Thank you sir,



Thaelin

   I have to sneak in here for a bit. I have many different types of
test meters laying around. The part where you said you went out
and replaced your "analog" meter with new ones brings up a point.
Most of the time, on the old style meters, a battery is only needed
to check ohms with. In AC/DC/Amps mode, they are passive in nature.
There is an adjustment so you can set the accuracy of the readings
but its just resistance.
   On the other hand, I recently acquired a very old military meter. It
takes two batteries to work and does nothing without them. I think
it was made in the '60s too.

Could you elaborate in that respect for me?
  thay