David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[Magluvin]

I agree Mags a solid base is vital. Hey Mags, is there any chance you could maybe make a new thread for this ? Maybe experiments with mechanical resonators "Tesla Tappers" or some such title. It is a very interesting subject.

I refuse to hold grudges so no one should think I have anything personal against them, I hope the same consideration can be given to me but if not so be it. I much prefer to co-operate than compete. I think we all (or most of us) want the same thing, to study, contemplate, experiment and look for new sources of energy to utilize or new ways of exploiting the energy of the unending quantum fluctuations, or going by another name "The Aether itself".

Cheers

Hey farmhand

Will make a new thread later this evening.    I cut out parts for a smaller than planned base and resonator. I decided to make this version to get the feel of it first, then figure if I want to go bigger later. But this will do for now.

Will make the thread and post a pic when I get it together. Just some drilling and fastening together.

Maybe an hour or 2.

Thought a lot about it today and Im happy with choosing spring tension instead of just a swinging pen. Will see how it goes.

Mags

[ramset]

An Invitation {of sorts}

Device which runs with gain
*sample
input 120 watts
Output 800 watts

If you build it they will .......
help

If Not ....something to do with "pounding salt" [  David's associate Mathew Jones is Not a mincer of words]!!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19774-basic-free-energy-device-32.html

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Matt
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"" So that said let me just go through what we have given you.

People fail to understand the 3 battery setup the way we have laid it out.
You have to batteries in serial (and for simplicity) they equal 24 volt. The third battery at 12 volt is wired parallel. Between the hots is the load.
Now you can be very efficient by running the load and rotating the batteries as John Bedini outlined along time ago, but you can actually start charging the system if you put in a regulator.

A simple or complex boost circuit to maintain a steady voltage at the point of a load. This boost circuit can maintain a 14.5 volt voltage on the load even if the difference between the serial batteries is as low as 7 volt. First you loose nothing from the boost circuit because all switching, that would normally cost you now switched to the 3rd battery which catches everything normally goes to ground. PLUS you get The boost side is now drained into the third battery after the load. Now if the load doesn't knock down the power to much you get another effect, this is the magic. So read closely.

DC is a LOOP!!

Everything that happens on the positive side happens on the negative side in reverse. You charge a battery 2 ways. The charge in the battery is only the voltage difference between the 2 poles, ZERO (gnd) and POSITIVE (12vdc).

So you have load powered at 14.5 vdc. The power coming out of the load is in serial with the charge battery. 12vdc + 14.2vdc (After the load) = 26.2 volt. If the top serial bank is at 24 volt now you a get a 2.2 volt charge on the ground side into the top batteries.

Your not discharging on the ground side so charging and discharging can happen in the same stroke. You have widened the potential on the top bank of batteries momentarily. At the same time you have asked for more power on the positive side.

Now you batteries sit at idle while charging the bottom battery or holding it at 14.5 +-.

Think about for bit. Think about a loop of serial and parallel action that can happen and how to make that happen. Charging on the ground side and discharging on the positive at the same time.

Now we spoke somewhere along the line. This is the only logical way of looking at 3 batteries in this system when they are running loads for long periods of time seemingly not loosing any power. Motors by themselves will not do it. You must use a boost regulator. Your potential between the poles must be higher than the pole on the 3rd battery and the 2 must be higher than the combination of the serial batteries on top.

So I can't remember which thread I put it in maybe this one, definitely links in this one, but I gave a you simple low cost motor.
This motor had NO BEMF, or CEMF. The winding resistance calculated with the voltage gave an amp draw that was with 5% of the math. Thats means nothing could be in the way. The bearings were what kept it at its speed.
This motor accomplished this by shorting out the coil just before load. But that only happens if you use a normal battery or power supply.
On the 3 battery setup every watt that is put in will come out and it come out at pretty high potential. High enough to achieve the above requirements. Self timed as well. No need for switching or lavish timing. SIMPLE!!!

No one put the 2 together though..Your loss.

So now like David always says hook it to a generator and you excess energy. Create a potential difference at some point in the system and you can do more work for even longer.

Want a generator that accelerates use Thane Heinz stuff. Or watch Gotoluc's video on hysteresis and how accelerating coils are waist of time. Well that is if its costing you to turn the gen. Or maybe even hunt down Erfinder and beat him till he gives the info on how to lower the impedance of a generator coil by pulling bigger loads.

Better yet spend a couple of years developing a MASS to IMPEDANCE formula for accelerating coil OF ANY TYPE OR MATERIAL including air, and do it the right way. Reverse lenz's law and have it actually work for you.

I don't care what you do...Just don't ask me for help, unless of course your really trying.

Matt ""
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respectfully
[and sincerely]

Chet K
PS
To Note
A Zero tolerance policy has been put in Place at The thread there.

[tinman]

The problem with anything you read on energetic,is that the forum is ruled by liars.
There are some brave enough there to speak the truth.

Originally Posted by i_ron  View Post
That is easy for you to say but won't happen under this situation when secrets are being kept. Peter comes on the list selling books, you and Dave play a cat and mouse game of who is going to let something slip first. It is pathetic.

Who ever you are i-ron,good on you for having the balls to speak the truth.

This is Peter !the hack! Lindermanns response to the truth.

I was really quite disheartened to see this post, so I'd like to share with you a little bit of my perspective on this. There are only a handful of people I know who have built self-running machines, based on the idea of a regenerative motor turning a low-drag generator, without being shown one first. That list includes: Bob Teal, Robert Adams, John Bedini, myself, and MATT JONES!

Lindermanns response is a barrage of outright lie's,as none of the people listed have ever built a self running device--hence the reason they are all still on the forum,trying to make a buck on selling books of secrets.

Lindermann,Arron the rookie,and the mighty Houdini him self-->you lot should be thrown in jail for fraud,as none of anything you sell ,claiming to give a means to build a self running device,is the truth.
You never have,and never will show a self running device,nor one that delivers more energy than in consumes.

These clowns need to be stopped,but as many of us know,you say something these hacks dont want to hear(like the truth),and you are banned from the forum.

Well i expose you for what you are--->frauds.


Brad

AKA--TinMan.

[ramset]

Brad
Not really speaking of anyone here except David Bowling And Mathew Jones.

And honestly Neither one has ever been anything but strait up Honest about their work.

I don't know if you have ever seen any Of Matts work , [I have not,  prior to today ]

I must say

I Really like this Fellah !

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19774-basic-free-energy-device-33.html

also to note
member skywatcher has started a replication thread here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20494-split-positive-boost-charger.html

I will ask David if he minds me posting direct youtube links here [perhaps he can ask Matt?]

Respectfully

Chet K


@ Note
Spoke with David ,no problems [he also mentioned Tyson's [skywatcher] thread which is posted above

adding some links from Matts Motor build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faZIszrlllI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFR-d_oaYsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFPLX9wlBXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-WIrQdlTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FcM_zlsVTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvLygYONVo0

and Link to Matt's Arduino info [mentioned in same post as Motor build info
https://learn.adafruit.com/diy-boost-calc/overview

[Dbowling]

Guys,


Every time I try to talk about this stuff I am shouted down by naysayers who insist you can't run loads off the potential difference between two sources of power, and they want data to back up my claims when I say you can. I am not here to provide that data. Probably never will. I am not here to satisfy the naysayers. I am here to simply ask folks to give this stuff try and make up their own minds. The addition of the boost circuit to insure that battery three is charged correctly is an amazing little addition to what we have been doing. I am turning my big generator with a razor scooter motor run on this system, so I know what it is costing me and what I am getting out of it, and that does not include what I am able to recover from the cost of running the motor.


Take a look at Skywatcher's thread about running an inverter between the positives from which you can run some significant loads. The information is all there. You just have to give it a chance. It's up to you and it is your loss if you don't. I;m not here to argue the point. Just to show what I believe is possible.