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Meyers Replica, Seeking Parts Info

Started by Farlander, May 08, 2008, 05:10:03 PM

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Farlander

Dude I have to say you probably get this all the time but you are the MAN!  You're effort and enthusiasm on this subject is formidable and I praise you sky high for all the help and info provided.  EXCELLENT post on the basics of Meyers' story and the results of that research.

I'm going to do a ton more independent research before I waste your time with mundane questions, thanks again for all the consideration.  Will post again soon!

Farlander

I'm about to order all those parts for the Lawton circuit.

I would like the circuit to be able to handle 60 amps at 12V DC.  I'm going to use a heavy duty 12 volt trickle charger as my power source.  Does anyone suggest the circuitry components be beefed up, particularly, diodes and mosfet?  Given the choke coil use and restrictive property of distilled water I would expect the circuit will draw very few amps once mature.  However, initially, the tubes must be oxidized, increasing resistance to current flow.  Once the tube is oxidized, much less amperage will be drawn.  I'm expecting a loss at the transformer is that correct? 

I'm assuming an auto ignition coil will work as the T1 Step-Up Transformer?  I would like to achieve 20,000 volts into the cell, and hopefully 40-80kV at the positive electrode (outer tube right)? 

I will probably be making the bifilar wound choke coil by hand.  Found a great video on youtube of some guy by his window and how to make one of these.  Thanks guy.

Still looking for specifics on frequency and mark/space maxs and mins using the dave lawton circuit.

One final question..........
How many turns of magnet wire on a coil is necessary to resist current flow?  I think this length has something to do with the resonance frequency, where reactance must equal inductance.  (Or, pull = push in a circuit)  I've thought that perhaps this process induces an ultrasonic vibration in the tubes by magnetizing them temporarily.

Thanks so much everyone.  I've gotten this far because of you all.  I have a steady income now so I can really start devoting effort towards building this cell.  I plan to use as many tubes as possible in the cell, as long as possible.  Right now I'm going to try it would with a nice stainless steel shower curtain rod.  The walls are thin but definitely stainless and the gap very closely inside each other.  If that works, it's a very cheap and effective stainless tube to use in production.  I eventually hope to build an ICE that runs off hydrogen by increasing the compression in the cylinders with a burst of water from the stock fuel injectors.  The combination of water and hydrogen explosion could create the compression and steam necessary to push the piston.  Perhaps ionizing the piston or injectors or installing a laser light spark plug.  I think this is most easily tested on an older car because of the adjustable distributor cap for varying timing.

I'm so pumped up

I tell so many people about this and they all blow it off.  Every time I say ok fuck them if they don't want to know fuck 'em.  But then I always tell somebody else, and each time it sucks but I keep doing it.

I just want to do this thing and get it to the people.

PEACE

lapperll

Farlander,
  The D14 circuit that you have posted is the one that pulses and unregulated alternator.  Are you planning on using an alternator?

  If you are planning on using an alternator, then the Lawton D14 is technically not required.  A simplified version of the pulsing circuit can be used. 

  The design that you have posted has been replicated by hundreds of people and they have published their results in many forums.  I'm not trying to be negative, but duplicating the Lawton/Ravi design is not going to produce what you are expecting.

  I know that you are exited.  I have been there also, telling everyone that will listen about hydrogen generators.  Spent months researching the internet reading everything that I could find on the subject.  Spent enormous amounts of money on parts.  Constructed a tube cell, built the Lawton D14 PWM, and was slightly disappointed.

  If you look at Meyers patents, you will see that the pulse generator that he uses in most of his patents (except for his injectors) is an unregulated alternator.  Some people claim that the alternator has been rewound, but I find that it works just fine with the factory windings.  All you have to do is remove the voltage regulator and capacitor, use the existing diode bridge and hook it to your cell.  Use a PWM to pulse the rotor and off you go.

Not trying to burst your bubble, just trying to save you lots of time, money and frustration.

There are many useful and practical designs out there.  Take your time and don't jump into it too quick.  There are many people that are on the verge of cracking this nut, and once it has been acomplished, it will be published and emailed to every one that has an interest.

LapperLL

See my projects page at:

http://mouserebellion.com/publicforum/


 

astrolplain

Here are some links, Including where to buy everything for the Lawton and Boyce replacations. This includes EVERYTHING to go from clueless to installing!!
Have fun
Steve

  Keep trying as there are a lot of people downloading this data so the limits are exceeded......

LINKS:


Youtube Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/raviwfc


Check the forum links below for all the WFC info:

http://www.oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1602

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3079.0.html



http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/browse/srawofni/33693
or
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/browse/waterfuel/42765
(Plans in the above links)


http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/Chapt10.html

http://waterfuel.t35.com/wf_meyer_ravi.html



Following link is a single point source of Dave Lawton approved kit and component seller:

http://www.courtiestown.co.uk/batteries/shop.htm



R.



lapperll

Farlander,

  Here are some additional links that you might find helpful in deciding what electrolyser to build:

   http://www.hydroxy.net/wiki/Document_Library  Here is a list of pdf construction docs of electrolysers people have successfully replicated.

  http://www.waterforfuel.com/  Check out Kevin's blog.  Only one of the few that are actually utilizing the technology.

  http://hydrogengarage.com/home.html  Here you can purchase components and kits and also a lot of useful info

  http://www.panaceauniversity.org/  This one is a little extreme but again lots of useful info.  Click on the Hydroxy boosters or water fuel cell replication under coming soon.


  Like I said previously, there are  a lot of different designs that you can choose from.

LapperLL