Meyers Replica, Seeking Parts Info

[Farlander]

Hi All,

I first heard about Stan's water car about 2 weeks ago and since then I haven't been able to stop reading about the idea (thus I found this wonderful site).  I've shared the concept with basically everyone I know, and nobody takes it seriously.  However I'm convinced that this technology has promise, and have come to the conclusion that the only way to prove it is to build one.  I don't want to profit off the idea, but do want to share with the world what could be a revolution in energy, ecology, and freedom from oil dependency.

My big dilemma is identifying the components necessary to replicate a Meyers cell.  Here's what I (think) I know:

He used 316L grade stainless steel pipes, with a gap of about 1/16" (if anybody could verify the pipes' ID's and OD's in mm that would be spectacular)

He used a "pulse generator" to adjust the voltage and frequency of the current (is one available on the market ready-made)?  Otherwise, what are the proper coils, capacitors, resistors, diodes, etc. needed?

He used several large (100 ohm?) resistors to curtail the flow of electrons between the negative exciter plate and ground.

If anybody has good parts sources or item descriptions it would be much appreciated.

Thanks a bunch you guys, this is a very exciting time,
Best Regards

[Feynman]

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[Feynman]

Here is a specific document regarding a Meyers HHO replication.

http://merlib.org/files/pgfed/D14.pdf

[Farlander]

Thanks a bunch Feynman.  It's people like yourself who may yet save the world from itself.

Question -- would welding the positive and negative wires to the stainless steel pipes affect their resonant frequency/properties??

Also, what kind of dial or knob could be connected to the circuitry for adjusting the frequency and voltage (assuming one was not sophisticated and using a USB controller)?  Would a light bulb dimmer switch work?

Are their any special criteria for the types of wires used as far as gauges or composition?

Feynman, does your circuitry need a coil to convert 12v DC to, say, 500v DC?  What size coil would be appropriate for building a Meyers cell that had, say, 12 pairs of 18" long tubes?

Thousand thanks

[Feynman]

Thanks!

Question -- would welding the positive and negative wires to the stainless steel pipes affect their resonant frequency/properties??

I doubt it!

Also, what kind of dial or knob could be connected to the circuitry for adjusting the frequency and voltage (assuming one was not sophisticated and using a USB controller)?  Would a light bulb dimmer switch work?

Well, I would use the solid-state setup (two 555 timers) described in the PDF.  For this setup, you would just use a potentiometer (variable resistor) to control the oscillation frequency, pulse width, etc.   A light dimmer might work.  But you can get a real potentiometer at Radio Shack for like $0.99.     

What I would do is make a parts list from that PDF and just order everything you need from Digikey or Jameco. That will be way cheaper than Radio Shack.   I would suggest you 'improvise' as few parts as possible, especially when you are starting out.  That will save you alot of headaches.  Also, the components used in this setup are very inexpensive from what I can tell.  I will draw up a parts list and post it on my blog.   

Are their any special criteria for the types of wires used as far as gauges or composition?

Nope, its just gotta handle the amps you are pushing.  For the portions of the circuit before the MOSFET, you can any type of wire, since the voltages and amperages are very low  (24 gauge, 32gauge, whatever).  I would suggest getting a prototype board like this one...

http://www.circuitspecialists.com/level.itml/icOid/6884

Prototype boards are great, they will save you so many headaches when you are developing a circuit.  Anyway, so no you don't need special wire until  the MOSFET.  The mosfet is your "power transistor" that does the heavy duty amp switching. After the MOSFET, you probably want 18 guage or better since this will be carrying an amp or two.  The exact guage you need depends on the number of amps.  Here is a chart

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

Feynman, does your circuitry need a coil to convert 12v DC to, say, 500v DC?  What size coil would be appropriate for building a Meyers cell that had, say, 12 pairs of 18" long tubes?

I'm not sure what you mean by this... do you mean circuitry on my blog or that PDF I posted?  Cause I didn't have anything to do with the PDF, I just found it an hour ago. Heheh.    I can tell you how to build high voltage DC electrolysis, but I'm not sure thats what your question is.   In that PDF they are using 12VDC for electrolysis.  In the blog post I mention 500V, but the HV power supply is not pictured.

What size coil would be appropriate for building a Meyers cell that had, say, 12 pairs of 18" long tubes?

Well what voltage do you want? That's the question!   

Cheers!
Feynman