I'm not one to get prematurely excited...but can someone explain this

[Grumpy]

I think by now we can rule out the brushes as many of you are getting the same effect with PC fans which have no brushes. So I think the next thing is as Grumpy suggests and what was talked about earlier. That is to build a larger coil and magnet setup mimicking the motor opting out the brushes. This way the magnets can also be removed to determine there part in this experiment.

Well as it is still raining here  my setup refuses to charge and the voltage is steady at 7.09 , again down from the 7.81 last night.

Cover the positive terminal of the battery and caps with tape or other insulating material to insulate them from the air and each other.  Just cover them up - ain't got to get fancy. 

I have a deep cell battery that self-discharges much faster when sitting on the bench if the terminals are exposed (it's a maintenance-free liquid lead-acid type), so I cover the positive one.  If you do this while your humidity is high and the voltage goes up - might be the terminal leakage.  If no change, then I would guess it is "environmental". 

Has anyone noticed a change between day and night measurements?

I'm thinkin that the circuit looks similar to Dollard Longitudinal analog simulation, where you have two identical inductors capacitively coupled to the battery, but with different magnetic bias on the inductors from the position of the rotor relative to the magnets.


Is there a difference with no magnets or with just one removed?

[TheOne]

I was able to recharge 4 AA batteries (1.2V NiMH) from 3.4V to 4.8V.

Seam to work pretty good so far, I dont even need the charger!!

I am not 100% sure if its a true charge, now I test to see what is the time to discharge the batteries with a fan. But so far that looks pretty good.

UPDATE:

Even if the voltage say its 4.8V the charge drop quite fast, I was not able to run the fan for more then 10 min, when its charged with the charger I can run the fan for hour.

[FatBird]

@ IronHead. 

Yes, you are right about the Aether changing voltage depending on the weather & time of day.  Here is a great post testifying of that fact.


http://dallastexas.net/PinkyAndTheBrain/archive/00000173.htm


I also suspect you are right that a Coil may do a better job than a motor?


Thanks.
.

[IronHead]

@TheOne , we have the voltage  but there is a problem with current at this point. We dont know if there is any yet. So the only thing to do is to try and scale this thing up and eliminate parts that are not needed. We hope in scaling we can find some small current that will give these batteries a real charge. Or will we need another component. Lets find out

@FatBird , Yes since we have ruled out the commutator having anything to do with this effect then we can move on to bigger and better magnets and coils.

I just attached this single 18ga coil I had from another experiment some time ago. The core is filled with FE304.To the left and right of the coil are two 3/4"x 3/4" N50 Neo magnets opposing. I suspect this gauge wire is far to large and would prefer something like 1000 feet of 32 gauge. But this is all I have at the moment  at least that will fit on this table.
As you can see the starting settled voltage with this experiment is 7.08 volts , everything else is the same.
It is still raining here, so lets see what happens with a single coil and two magnets. Remember these are N50 magnets, so the field is huge!

No need to build a fancy apparatus at this point.
Hoping this type of an upgrade might increase any current that my be available.

[Goat]

@ All

I charged three dead 9 volt transistor type batteries from 6.3 to 7.8 Volts in 24 hours but when I hooked them up to a small 25 mA bulb the light quickly drained the voltage so it seems like an apparent voltage charge but no power to it, oh well I'm not giving up yet.  I know this wasn't near the original setup but that's what I had at hand

For the record, the batteries were hooked up in series with 1 KV disk caps and a tiny toy type motor, much smaller components than my first setup.

BTW:  I like the coil idea, I think I'll try that next.

Regards to all,
Paul