FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS

[gyulasun]

Hi Gyula
Thanks for that,I was thinking maybe simple points of some sort would be less expensive energy wise,what do you think?
happy hunting
peter

Peter,  I am puzzled by what you mean above,  I have included everything in my previous few posts I could to make it for you less expensive energy wise. Ask definite questions if you have any.

Gyula

[gyulasun]

poynt99, actually it doesn't.

It has two coils and only use's one pole from each coil.

Hi nightlife,

Respectfully I disagree.  Both poles get utilized from each coil: when they are energized the left side of coil 22a helps block flux from North pole of the stator magnet and the right side of coil 22a repels out the South pole of the rotor magnet .  Coil 22b does the same task but with reversed polarity wrt coil 22a.
Here is some text from his patent the Figure above referred to belongs to:
What distinguishes this motor generator from all others in the art is the presence
of a permanent magnet connecting the two conducting bars which transfer magnetic energy through the pole pieces to the rotor, thereby attracting the rotor between the pole pieces. With the rotor attracted in between the two pole pieces, the coils switch the polarity of the magnetic field of the pole pieces so that the rotor is repelled out.
Therefore there is no current and voltage being used to attract the rotor. The only current being used is the repulsion of the rotor between the two conductive bar pole pieces thereby requiring only a small amount of current to repel the rotor. This is known as a regauging system and allows the capturing of available back EMF energy for use.

it's been said here that Bedini never utilized both poles

doesn't this patent look like both poles are being used?

Poynt99,  Bedini did not utilize both poles in case of the school girl (SG) and simplified school girl (SSG) motors, and the patent you showed he did. This is what I think.

Regards,
Gyula

[poynt99]

poynt99, actually it doesn't.

It has two coils and only use's one pole from each coil.

the coils, magnet and pole pieces constitute one continuous magnet, just like a horseshoe magnet, and both poles of it are being used. The coils allow for switching.

[LarryC]

@gotoluc,

Before Thane's thread, I was developing an easy build version of Jack Hilden-Brandt magnet switching motor. My versions used the same shaded pole motor, cut up similar to what you did, except it would have required 3 shaded pole motors to get it fully working. Your Z rotor design is better. But the magnet switching setup that I used can easily be added to your unit and would increase the power by 3 to 4 times, and also the coil kickback.


The motor with magnets picture, has completely lifted the weight hooked to the fan and the rotor is completely in the air gap.

The motor without magnets picture, shows it cannot lift the weight at all.

On the motor closeup, you can see that I have an iron washer between the stator lamination and the 1" X 1/4" neo. This is to cut down the over saturation. The rest of the steel is just to complete the flux path, it doesn't have to be pretty or lamination, just a path to stop flux jumping to the stator.

The magnet are stuck N on one side of the stator and S on the other. When the coil is not energized all the flux goes thru the stator under the coil. When the coil is energized in the same N S as the stator, both the coil flux and the magnet flux is forced thru the rotor, and both kickback when released. The force formula is Flux squared. So double the flux and you get 4 times the force.

I hope you can set this up, as it would be very interesting to see the results on your electronics.

Anyone wanting to review some well done charts and statistics on a magnet switching device can check out patent 6369479. The motor is currently being built in Japan for motorcycles.

Regards,
Larry

[petersone]

Hi Gyula
Sorry if you were confused,I will be trying your ideas for the switch,thanks for that,VERY usefull, but was interested in your views on mechanical switches,zero resistance,maybe,but some drag on the motor.
Ihave it running at the moment on carbon brushes and an old comutater,but it's using over 50% of my energy,ok for playing with.
thanks again.
happy hunting.
peter