I have a working Bessler wheel in my simulation !

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Aquariuz,

I am not a software engineer but I am a mechanical engineer. Apart from the fact that the simulation uses an impossible material for the coupling of the two bodies (It uses a material that is stronger than steel and lighter than hydrogen) I cannot see how the earth's rotation can influence the action of the wheel since there is no such parameter in the programme that I can find.

The programme should have thrown the value out as impossible, or at least have given a warning.

Remember the early chess programmes where you could play against the computer? You could win every game against the computer by making a series of irrational moves. The programme simply got so confused it went haywire and started sacrificing vital figures. I think something like this could be happening here.

Hans von Lieven

[AquariuZ]

@Niente & Hans

I found the error thank god. The left polygon (6) has different dimensions than the other "spokes".

Poly 6 has a mass of 1Kg and momentum of 1500 Kg/m? as opposed to the other spokes who have mass of 1Kg and momentum of 1552.083 Kg/m?. You can clearly see the location of ply six on the plane as (-140,70) where the others are around (67.5,140), (140,67.5) and (67.5,140) non absolute.

Changing poly six?s dimensions gives a model that fails to make a single rotation. (Cannot be tested because max frames is 32765) corrected model attached.

So Hans is right, the model was invalid, but it had nothing to do with the notation of the small bar. So we were both at least a little bit right.

Please note the scientific notation in the momentum measurement window of polygon 2, the center rectangle.

I?ll copy DST on this, this looks like a bug, even though the model was not in balance, acceleration should not be possible. Downsizing the model gives about the same results as the attached corrected version.

Aquariuz

[AquariuZ]

I am not a software engineer but I am a mechanical engineer. Apart from the fact that the simulation uses an impossible material for the coupling of the two bodies (It uses a material that is stronger than steel and lighter than hydrogen) I cannot see how the earth's rotation can influence the action of the wheel since there is no such parameter in the programme that I can find.

I just read your reply. Defending software is a bad habit! 

My old troubleshooting itch made me want to find the flaw and there you go. naturally the model is off the charts both marterial wise and dimension wise. I should have broken apart once Run was pressed. Fun program though, but appearantly not too reliable for Bessler tests as was remarked before...........

Thanks

[AquariuZ]

Changing poly six?s dimensions gives a model that fails to make a single rotation. (Cannot be tested because max frames is 32765) corrected model attached.

The corrected model just started accelerating. I give up.

[hansvonlieven]

Well done Aquariuz!

Good on you for applying your obvious expertise to a problem we have with the programme. Hopefully it will lead to better simulation software.

Thank you

Hans