Is Lindsay?s ?SM? a fraud?

[innovation_station]

can i have your att please...   lol ...

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look at this ...

marco wanna play tesla style with some real toys TUBES......



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[BEP]

Communication is seldom a waste.

I don't share things I can't confirm or others will not be able to duplicate. There is no point.

Some things I'm glad to share that should apply and they can be checked:

1. A magnetic force does not add or subtract from a moving charge when the magnetic is used to change the direction of a moving charge. This is basic, conventional and proven on my bench (to my limited abilities).
2. Lenz's law does not apply (as it is written) to every inductor. It only applies to solenoid wound coils and single loops. Try applying it to a flat spiral. The induced magnetic force does not oppose in direction of the oncoming field. The polarity of the induced force is 90 degrees instead of 180 degrees.
Lenz's law is one foundation block for thermodynamics.
3. It is a simple matter to rotate a charged medium in a magnetic field. All you need is charge, flow and a magnetic field. Fill a plastic thimble with water, sprinkle some pepper in the water, apply a few DC volts positive to the middle of the water, apply the negative to the outer diameter of the body of water. The water will rotate (real rotation).
4. Moving charges induce movement in charges of a conductor. The magnetic is only the container of charge.
5. Like charges attract to each other when they move together in their common reference frame. (Hmmmm, sounds a bit like gravity doesn't it?)
6. Don't get hung up on field lines. Your iron filings make the field lines. They aren't there to begin with.
7. When a switch, spark gap, neon light, diode (SS or not) is turned on the most interesting things happen before conventional current flows.

One last proven fact:

8. I am not always correct. Your way may be the answer as easily as mine. The best thing you can do is work the problem the way you see it and believe nothing until it happens on your bench.

Some of Spheric's ideas prove out for me, not enough of them. Same for other works done on this forum. Some work done here is great and has shaken my world already. Now I understand why some things blew up. I just need to make use of that knowledge  

So the question about why iron cores won't work..... I can only tell you why they won't work for my ideas. I can't say they will not work for the correct idea.


No bench work today. The Sun is shining and the wind isn't bad. Time to prepare for a lng cold winter.

[wattsup]

A turning compass needle does not necessarily mean there is a rotating field. I can make a compass needle turn very fast with one impulse and good voltage. I can lower the voltage and make it turn by providing the impulse just at the right time where the momentum of the needle is just right and all it needs is a little well timed nudge to keep it turning.

Most of the time when you check a devices magnetic field with a compass and you do not see anything special with the device flat on the bench, try turning the device on its side. You will be amazed and this gives you a better appreciation of the fields in the 3rd dimension.

@bolt

I do agree about the control coil and collector designations as I have "lobbied" on and off on the forum that these were backwards. But when the wind blows east, it's hard to make things go west.

As for banging coils, I had said many times it is like "brute force DC pulsing" that will only create heat. That may be so but guys like Otto did come across a grand anomaly in this effect with his ECD which I still wonder about. I am convinced he hit a degausing frequency but cannot prove it. But there should not be any "for or against" and all should be willing to call a spade a spade and call it something else when it is is not a spade. What I mean is this.

Take any one portion of a thunder cloud. Nothing special but air, wind, some friction and water droplets. So you can play around in that area of the cloud and see what happens. Then you have the area immediately in the vicinity of where a thunder bolt is generated. This part of the cloud requires much more energy to replicate and the payoff is a nice thunder bolt. So. Some people like playing in the cloud and some people like to play near the bolt source. There is nothing wrong with either because both will teach you something you did not already know about the cloud. Besides, Tesla must have banged a few coils in his day (no pun intended). lol

Also, you are very right about the forum going "sort of haywire" during the first months. I was pulling the hair out of my head trying to wonder why guys would so quickly jump to conclude on what they were seeing then veer off into so many directions, when what was really required was more sober observation of the devices. Then and now my strengths in logic systems and logical thinking was always very high and I did not see the logic, but my OU acumen was very low or green so I did not think it was my place to stand up and beat the "who the hell cried wolf" drum. Maybe if more of us spoke out then, we would be further ahead. But such is life.

@IS

A 7.5 hp stator will give a nice kick all right. But it will also give a nicer kickback that can really hurt. lol
Also thanks for that history web page. Really nice and I will look it over. It's funny but when you are involved in this OU stuff, you read about the standard EE components and I always see them in such a different manner then they have originally been destined to be used.

@Guys in show and tell mode

I was really surprised to see all those builds from all you guys but am wondering if you all have a concrete strategy on how to make them vibrate, pulsate and generate what you expect from them.

Tesla would see his devices in 3d virtual reality in his minds eye before attempting to make a build. He knew before even starting the build that his device was "going" to work "exactly" as his vision depicted it. We are making so many builds, but I must say for myself that my building fervor has now given place to more deep reflections of my ideas "from all angles", without playing the, build it just to see game.

I can see these devices in my mind, certainly not as fluent or in focus as Tesla, but at least in my new method of building, I do at least 90% of the build in my mind. If it holds out OK then I will try to do some peripheral experiments to see if this or that effect can hold up, then I will make a build.

What I am trying to say is we have to stop pushing guys to build and build just for the sake of trying or just for the sake of being "part" of a build movement. Yes we all like being part of something that one would want to consider as a noble cause. But we also have to realize that we can build a device in our mind just as well as building it on the bench, when you have touched enough side aspects to get a preamble of the expected effects.

As for the spherics design, I can tell you today (my opinion only) that it will not work as is, simply because half of the supplied energy to the device is wasted in the opposing fields. There are always two coil halves that are being energized for nothing. When you are supplying such a coil scheme with 250 or 350 volts dc, with two coils always pulsing at any given moment. You are then expecting the ether to give back via the excitation or formation of a rotating field, to pull more energy into the center toroid collector. I cannot in all practicality envision this as being a sound expectation of the end results.

My first personal OU rule. If you waste a polarity, you have to first make back that waste before you can expect OU and the more you waste, the more you are already set back. So, make designs that do not waste a polarity.

OR, and this is a big OR. Include pick up coils on the opposing coil ends to catch as much of the wasted energy to be sent back to the source. If you use the north of a coil to simply turn a wheel with magnets in it, then also include a pick up coil on the south side to catch energy from that end and re-cycle it. This aspect of OU devices will have to be looked at more closely since the first step in any OU device will be its inherent frugality with the energy it receives. If this aspect is not optimized, then OU will be difficult.

@sparks

I like your last post.

During my many many months on this board, I must say I have learned, tried and tried and seen many many device trials. Of all of these trials, there is really only one that stands out in my mind as a practical and potential source of free energy and that is the one shown by @handyguy. I have put up a post in his thread if anyone wants to take a look.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3865.msg134268#msg134268

I am convinced that this is the most easiest method of overunity and in my selection criteria I give high marks for "low cost and simplicity" and ease of disseminating the build information and understanding should the idea meet with success. I will now make my outer coil for this device and start experimenting. I had tried many internal coil variations to see the effects without success. The only thing that has kept me on this orientation for so many months is because it works with a coil and a "swinging" magnet and not a "rotating" magnet, so it should work with a coil and a swinging virtual magnet. This is what I will be concentrating on for the near future. I want this thing to loop when the battery is disconnected and can see it already in my mind. Hmmmmm.

Sorry for long post.

@BEP

Thanks for your post. Really pertinent.
I also have to change over my shed from summer to winter mode. Time to take out the snow blower.

[EMdevices]

Hey Guys,

I haven't posted in a while since I just moved but I wanted to say that I just viewed the FTPU video again and I get convinced every time that what SM is saying in the video is quite amazing and simple.   

He says: 

1) energy comes from the magnetic field of the earth, which has an inherent frequency

2) he tunes his device to this frequency


I was just walking along a trail last evening that was close to power lines about 10 meters high off the ground.  I heard a very unusual beating frequency (combination of two frequencies or more) that was quite amazing and quite noticeable only between two poles.  From the geography and topology of the area, this was the crest of the hill or mountain  (rocky terrain here in Nevada)

This got me thinking some more about the TPU and vibrations/electromagnetic interactions.

EM

[sparks]

  @ wattsup

      Looks a bit like Searl's motor and Marco's dancing magnets.


     I think the weak magnetic field of the Earth can be utilized to power stuff up if we put a galvenometer to it.  We are traversing it at 1000mph and there is a vertical component to it also.  Well say we can cut some electrons free of a conductor.   Then the magnetic field of the Earth and our relavent motion across it are used to keep the electrons from going back into the wire.  We generate voltage because voltage is just charge seperation.  Now if we do this right the electrons stay out of the collector/cathode longer than would be expected because they are held out of the wire by magnetic suspension. The collector/cathode goes positive as soon as the kick kicks the electron's off the surface of the wire.  And now it stays positve longer than it should because it is being excited by the magnetic field of the Earth and the motion of the tpu through it.  The collector winding is now a positively charged capacitor plate.  (as well as the plastic near it that forms electrets)  Meanwhile a second unactivated cathode/collector winding is becoming  negatively charged because the electron cloud is heading it's way.  Connect the two collectors to a capacitor and charge her up. Every kick gets a little bit of voltage gain because of the Earth's magfield excitation.  core. 
    I get excited when NASA develops an ion propulsion system that works off ammonia gas a capacitor bank and some copper wire and they get a one megawatt power plant inside a sattelite.
   From Wiki:

Pulsed inductive thrusters (or PITs) are a form of ion thruster, used in spacecraft propulsion. A PIT uses perpendicular electric and magnetic fields to accelerate a propellant. A nozzle releases a puff of gas (usually ammonia or argon) which spreads across a flat induction coil of wire about 1 meter across. A bank of capacitors releases a pulse of electric current lasting 10 microseconds into the coil, generating a radial magnetic field. This induces a circular electrical field in the gas, ionizing it and causing the ions to revolve in the opposite direction as the original pulse of current. Because their motion is perpendicular to the magnetic field, the ions are accelerated out into space.

Unlike an electrostatic ion thruster, PIT requires no electrodes (which are susceptible to erosion) and its power can be scaled up simply by increasing the number of pulses per second. A 1-megawatt system would pulse 200 times per second.