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Overunity?

Started by Alexioco, May 24, 2008, 10:53:36 AM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Alexioco on May 24, 2008, 03:45:25 PM
nah its ok, it was just an idea I though I would share...

Well, Alexioco will you share it once you drew attention and asked the question?

Gyula

Alexioco

The lever on the left (weight A) will be lifted up a full half circle when the little lever (weight B) falls down a half circle.

The difference between both weights is that weight A travels a much further distance than weight B through the use of the pulley, so because of this, I was asking, is this overunity?

Here is another way of putting it.

When weight B has fallen and stopped at point X
Weight B will have raised and stopped at point Y
and they both get their points at the same time meaning that weight B must of also traveled faster than weight A

I have tested the idea without the weights and the mechanism works...
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Yes I understand your idea but this isn't going to work if the weights are the same.The right weight needs to be x times heavier than the left one to make this mechanism work. Since the closer you get to the pivot of that long lever the bigger force you need.

gyulasun

Quote from: Alexioco on May 24, 2008, 06:41:13 PM
The lever on the left (weight A) will be lifted up a full half circle when the little lever (weight B) falls down a half circle.

The difference between both weights is that weight A travels a much further distance than weight B through the use of the pulley, so because of this, I was asking, is this overunity?

Here is another way of putting it.

When weight B has fallen and stopped at point X
Weight B will have raised and stopped at point Y
and they both get their points at the same time meaning that weight B must of also traveled faster than weight A

I have tested the idea without the weights and the mechanism works...


Hi Alexioco,

Because you have not used weights yet, would you tell or check what is the weight ratio or how the weights of the two arms you used are related? Are they of the same weight or due to their lenght difference the left hand side arm is heavier than the arm on the right side?

Thanks,  Gyula

pese

it both weight are equal
if both leverage are equal
if both moving way of weight (lengh) are at minimum equal
than is OU.

The drawlings here, will not shown this

If the moved way in output  ist longer that this from input  ( with 2 equal weigths)
Than you have an additionally  Power
This can  drive itself also more additionally devices (on your choise).

Hoping that another "Bessler" find this again....

That Power is existing !

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