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Interesting experiment with an transformer, 2 lamps, diodes and an magnet

Started by gast, September 06, 2005, 06:06:35 PM

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GM

Hi Rob,

Quote from: kingrs on August 28, 2006, 01:25:33 PM
Hi Markus,
Just realised that it was you that did the original experiment - well done.
I too would like to re-create your experiment.
I have all parts needed, except for the CD4093, a very clever use of two diodes to get a variable duty cycle.
My old storage scope does have a digital output though.
In my component box I have a NE555 timer but that will not support a variable duty cycle of 0 to 100% as far as I know.

Thi circuit was not designed by me, so the clever use of the parallel diodes is not my merit(?). :-)

Quote from: kingrs on August 28, 2006, 01:25:33 PM
Did you use copper wire for the windings?
Have you tried it with copper wire?
What is Tesla wire, the only thing I can think of is copper coated iron wire?

Teslawire is "copperwire" coated with a thin insulation (in german: Kupferlackdraht).
The exact parameter (except the material of the core) you will find in my last post.

I wish success for your replication. And don'T forget to post your results here. ;-)


Quote from: kingrs on August 28, 2006, 01:25:33 PM
Have you tried two magnets: one above and one below the core with like poles facing the core?
This way you should be able to get a neutral flux density in the core centre with it increasing as it gets nearer the windings.

Yes I tried placing two small magnet this way, but nothing suprising was happend. :-)

Markus

PaulLowrance

Hi Marcus,

I am very interested in building your device as I'm also very interested in unlimited energy solid-state magnetic devices, but first I would like to build your circuit in LTSpice.  I've seen two circuits in this thread, but you've mentioned errors in both. Could you please perhaps post a circuit diagram of one of your devices that you would most recommend to build? I'm interested in your most successful device that you believe produces the most output relative to input power. Or perhaps you already have a link to such a circuit.

Last night I came up with what I think could be breakthrough in how to extract energy from the magnetic material. OK, I give my idea perhaps 30% chance of being error free, but since your device and various others successful magnetic devices seem so similar to my method I was excited to study your device.

I appreciate it!
Paul Lowrance

PaulLowrance

I wanted to add that my method has to do with robbing kinetic & potential energy that magnetic moments give when magnetized. When magnetic material is magnetized it *must* give energy to something. It is basic physics that if you take two magnetic moments that are out of alignment and then make then align that you get energy.

So one could ask "Where does this energy go?"  There are several options:

1. Part of the energy goes to potential energy within the magnetic material.
2. Part of the energy goes to thermal energy. How much the magnetic material heats up depends on the materials heat capacity.
3. Part of the energy goes to electromagnetic radiation.

On #3 above you can verify this by wrapping a lot of turns of copper wire around a large piece of hard iron such as a steel nail and connecting it to your speaker amplifier. You will hear popping noises which are avalanches occurring within the hard iron.


Normally the above three forms of energy come from your battery or whatever you're using to magnetize your material. Most of #3 above is converted to #2. And #2 & #1 are converted back into potential energy when the applied magnetic field is removed. This causes the material become colder. So during each cycle it is known that magnetic materials become hotter and then colder.

Materials with high permeability tend to have less #2 and #3 above. Materials such as steel have a lot of #2 and #3.

I need to think more about my method, but so far it seems it will best work with low effective permeability. As example, a typical rod has significantly less effective permeability than a toroid. Also a major requirement is energizing the magnetic material as quickly as possible. Actually you don't want to put too much energy into energizing the material, but the correct amount.

In a nutshell, when you apply a magnetic field to magnetic material then the magnetic material aligns the magnetic moments. When this happens potential energy is being converted to kinetic energy. For example a satellite in Earths orbit has potential energy; i.e., if it falls then it converts that potential energy to kinetic energy. The same applies with magnetic material. When the material is not magnetized then the domains are not aligned, for various reasons such as thermal agitation. This is potential energy. When the domains align then that potential energy is converted to kinetic energy. The opposite also occurs when the applied field is removed; i.e., the magnetic material becomes colder as it converts kinetic energy to potential energy.

Initially it seemed almost impossible to capture that potential energy rather than allow it to go to heat. I have some really possible ideas how it could work.

Any advice is greatly appreciated. So far from what I've read about Marcus device it seems to match my method. For example Marcus mentions high voltage spikes, no?  Marcus, I am wondering about some other matches. For example, is your device more efficient when using rods sa compared to toroids? Also, is your device more efficient with material that is not too high or too low in permeability?

Paul Lowrance

GM

Hello Paul,

Quote from: PaulLowrance on August 28, 2006, 02:30:33 PM
I am very interested in building your device as I'm also very interested in unlimited energy solid-state magnetic devices, but first I would like to build your circuit in LTSpice. 

Do you really expect this effect in a software simulation? Hmm...

Quote from: PaulLowrance on August 28, 2006, 02:30:33 PM
I've seen two circuits in this thread, but you've mentioned errors in both. Could you please perhaps post a circuit diagram of one of your devices that you would most recommend to build? I'm interested in your most successful device that you believe produces the most output relative to input power. Or perhaps you already have a link to such a circuit.

Oh damn, you're right! What I actually posted is not the actual circuit I use.

(paint paint paint...)

Okay, I attach the circuit diagram of the generator and setup I use today.
I hope I forgot no details... I would appreciate it, if you post your replication results here
on this forum. ;-)

Your remaining text and your other post I read/answer later, because I want to understand
them correctly. (I should have been more attentive in the english lessons when I was a schoolboy :-/ )

Regards, Markus

Edit 29.08.2006: Sorry again a fix in the circuit draft, the 5 volt IC was absent - it seems I am "the master of forgetfulness"  >:(

starcruiser

GM,

I was following your experiment and find it intersting. I had a thought, have you tried adding a capacitor in place of the kickback lamp yet? I am thinking this would increase the output and the efficiency perhaps. i would suggest picking a cap value that would drive the coil into resonance (primary side) and amplify the kicks even more, what do you think? You would need an inductance meter to determine the coils inductance to assit you in selecting the correct cap value though.

Carl
Regards,

Carl