Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

[Jimboot]

Well I have found the washers make a huge difference in output whether it be a galvanic reaction I am measuring or something else. Ihaven't posted photos yet as I need to clean my bench :-)

But I still don't understand how I can measure volts through plastic. Faraday cage next I think to eliminate the aerial theory.

[Jimboot]

So you do measure a current even when you use a proper isolator material?

Yes - I'll have to double check re amps but certainly I have measured over two volts through the plastic of the alligator clip. I'll be testing tonight with another meter and different probes. I'll make a vid or take some pix.

Now I assume you're using the horseshoe magnet setup with a soft iron
or steel keeper, and the "dielectric" between the magnet and the keeper?
So you just apply the multimeter probes, one to the magnet and one to the
keeper, and you read this voltage and amperage?
(I'm assuming you used the middle of the magnet and the middle of the keeper?)

I have two setups I refer to in previous posts. I'm not using the horseshoe now as I get better readings using a neo with washers. The main setup is attached ina diagram. The blue is the paper between the magnets (yellow) . You will notice the 3rd washer is the only one that has paper either side. I realise this setup will be creating some galvanic effectn(washers are zinc plated). However I believe something else is going on as well.  I clip the probe to either end of array (using alligator clips) to get voltage. I can use a mag on the 1st washer and have the alligator clip magnetically attached to it through its insulation and it will register a voltage. I find that ......odd.

you should indeed be able to get a similar
voltage from any other piece of nickel pressed hard against the iron keeper...
So any difference suggests an additional effect...

My second experiment was to measure the difference between a Galvanic reaction and simply using damp paper as a replacement for the glass of water.
This was done with a single 10mm cylinder neo and a brasswasher. I was trying to minimise the galvanic effect here so I chose a brass washer rather than zinc plated. When using the paper I place the washer  upright in the centre of the mag then take measurements closer to the edge which are always higher. Tonight I'll measure both the amps and voltage for the brass washer tests.

I know this is a bold statement from a noob but here is what I think is happening. The washers are having a 'funnelling effect" of some sort. Using washers upright at least doubles the voltage in all tests.I have a few other theories but I need to learn the terminolgy before I confuse the crap out of everyone with my own "newspeak"

I still don't follow what you meant by "switching the meter to 20" but I guess
that'll just have to remain a mystery.

Not important really. Just didn't know how to read my meter. At setting '2' it would only read up to 2 volts. So I had to switch it to setting 20 for it to read anything over 2 volts and setting 200 to read anything over 20 volts.

[Jimboot]

The attached pic is what I was talking about with getting a charge through the insulation. I took a bunch of video tonight so I'll get it up tomorrow... so to speak :-)

[Koen1]

Thanks for that very lucid reply Jimboot!

I'm going to have to try that... Digging around for my magnets now

(lol "newspeak" hehe, someone's been reading )

[sandor]

Very silly. At first I thought you were making an elaborate joke but it looks like you are taking this seriously. First of all, it looks like you have electric and magnetic fields confused. Magnetic fields form closed loops, always closed loops, the divergence of the magnetic field is 0 because there are no magnetic monopoles though some people seem to think such may be formed at high energy levels.

Ok, if you're measuring a voltage that is not 0 there are two explanations. One, you have formed an actual galvanic cell. It's a battery - when the voltage went up when you gripped it with your bare hands that only proves it more - that's what was originally called 'animal electricity' back in the 1800s. Two, it's the floating voltage of the DMM. Digital multimeters tend to drift and may record a surprisingly large voltage if the two leads are not connected together by any low impedance connection (for instance touching them together). The semiconductors need a solid voltage to get a definite reading, even if that voltage is 0, so if you just have two wires dangling it may drift all over the place. You won't see this with a classic coil-based multimeter. As to why your new DMM measured a higher voltage with lower current, or lower voltage with higher current, I don't remember which, it's just because the device's internal impedance is different. If one of them had huge input resistance and the other had it not so huge, well, the one with the huge resistance would be able to drift more in voltage. If you try your experiment with a non-magnetized piece of iron, you'll be able to prove to yourself that nothing is going on as a result of the magnetic field. A steady magnetic field does not induce any electromotive force.