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Fracturing Water Using High Frequency Electricity.

Started by gazzzwp, May 30, 2008, 02:09:08 PM

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markolonius

Quote from: Jokker on June 16, 2008, 05:52:46 PM

So ur getting it on...   I'm looking forward

"Have you tried to loop frequencies, amplitude and signal form...
But also u need to build up a analyzing part, coz as im been told at school that there is no point to learn if u are not understanding stuff ur learning...
It will be very "perfect" if ull find a way to catch the thing u want. And maybe it got different ways to show it out. Increasing voltage or hight hydrogen output... maybe changes in resistance between electrodes.
U will need a system what will notice a change, and do something for ya (finding the right frequency).

Im pretty sure that it is very hard to archive but i guess by this way u will see results.  " ( before reading a reply)

But yea im pretty sure that it will be very hard to create something working right, without seeing output. Oscilloscope will help help you much!
By the way what about 923hz ? Have u seen some results ?

Keep it up  ::)

uggh i typed this whole thing up and my internet died when i hit post.... so i lost it all.  lets see if i can type it all up again alittle shorter.   umm
i haven't actually experimented yet.  i finally put together an old computer and turned it iinto my testing linux box haha.  got the software and all working today.  problem i have is i dunno what the voltage is coming from the output of the sound card. my meter reads 0 for some reason.  maybe i need an amp or something.  what i have is an old pair of headphone wires that i'm gonna connect to 2 electrodes.  and i'll plop em into a tank and see what happens.  using a square wave at 923Hz.  probbably nothing because theres no power from what i see.

about the 923Hz.  read up on page 21 of that D6.pdf i gave a link to in my last post. explains almost everything. and lots of other useful info too.

i'll keep ya up to date if anything interesting happens.

Jokker

Quote from: markolonius on June 16, 2008, 06:21:29 PM
uggh i typed this whole thing up and my internet died when i hit post.... so i lost it all.  lets see if i can type it all up again alittle shorter.   umm
i haven't actually experimented yet.  i finally put together an old computer and turned it iinto my testing linux box haha.  got the software and all working today.  problem i have is i dunno what the voltage is coming from the output of the sound card. my meter reads 0 for some reason.  maybe i need an amp or something.  what i have is an old pair of headphone wires that i'm gonna connect to 2 electrodes.  and i'll plop em into a tank and see what happens.  using a square wave at 923Hz.  probbably nothing because theres no power from what i see.

about the 923Hz.  read up on page 21 of that D6.pdf i gave a link to in my last post. explains almost everything. and lots of other useful info too.

i'll keep ya up to date if anything interesting happens.


Im too tired to get on with this thing. Finally school ended  ::)

So far as i understand u are trying to use PCs as oscilloscope and signal generator ?
I guess sound card is perfect for signal generating coz it is meant to do it. By the way audio out is very variable. voltage should be in V and sound volume is also driven by voltage (signal) but mainly by current.
By using PC sound card as signal generator... you should be aware that after all it is meant to play audio, due it it may have many effects u do not need...

Looking forward ! keep it going  ;)

By the way i found something about 923 Hz experiment
http://www.icestuff.com/~energy21/buerger1.htm
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Take the ride !

triffid

I was trying to do that  923 hz experiment.Me and a friend of mine.He built the circuit but the scope said no signal was coming out of his device.I could never build the timer,too many tiny connections.But once the electrodes were seasoned(a couple of hours)My audio signal generator
produced bubbles at the lowest volt and amp readings the knobs would go.I found out too if you put magnets in the device like so: Magnet(ns)+ electrode  Solution  (-)electrode Magnet(ns).
Magnets need to attract each other.One near each electrode.Then the reaction went a lot quicker and produced more bubbles than when the magnets were removed.triffid

starcruiser

The audio card of a PC puts out AC only with very little DC bias (if any). If you use a VOM or DVM you will see something on the AC setting but please note that they are designed for 50~60hz operation. O-scopes are required to see the output reliably. Voltage out will vary from 0~ 5vac. You should use the sound card as a driver for a power transistor which in turn drives the plates.
Regards,

Carl

Jokker

Quote from: starcruiser on June 17, 2008, 12:58:46 PM
The audio card of a PC puts out AC only with very little DC bias (if any). If you use a VOM or DVM you will see something on the AC setting but please note that they are designed for 50~60hz operation. O-scopes are required to see the output reliably. Voltage out will vary from 0~ 5vac. You should use the sound card as a driver for a power transistor which in turn drives the plates.

I wanted to tell the same... that u cant measure sound card signal output by using ordinary multimeter, because... first of all is is signal and is is hight frequency 1. They say that oscilloscope is way more accurate, i really dunno why.
But using audio output to switch transistor is not good idea at all... yea it will be much more effective but is is again whole idea. To separate H  and O from H2O by using low current. If u are up for it then u should use ordinary final audio amplifier, it will be good if it is linear. But i really dunno about tease coils... i guess they are for voltage amplification. 
Sometimes when ill get some time ill try to put something together.  :)
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