Cancer cure, but FDA and doctors would rather have your cash and not the cure.

[Koen1]

Why would anyone in their right mind use colloidal silver and risk a condition like Argyria?

Well because there are so many quacks telling very convincing sounding stories of how
"colloidal silver" and "monoatomic gold" and such nonsense "really works"
and even polishes your aura while it's at it
Even the famous "Blue Congressman" fell for it: http://www.billingsgazette.com/rednews/2002/10/03/build/local/72-candidate_large.inc
And of course a great many quasi-new-age webshops eagerly take advantage of such popular alchemist elixirs
and sell all kinds of "monoatomic" and/or "colloidal" and/or "cosmic light" mineral supplements. That independant lab tests
show that most of those don't even contain proper colloidal mineral solutions but rather the simple normal solution of the element,
or that "monoatomic" element solutions aren't even recognised in chemistry and physics does not keep such companies
from selling them, and does not keep people from falling for it.

But hey, if you want to believe that swallowing dissovled "monoatomic" gold will make you immortal, like some
people seem to believe, then of course it's their right to believe it... Just don't be surprised if they end up very mortal
and with heavy metal poisoning...
Same with the "colloidal silver", just drink tto much of it and you go blueish grey, and that's still the least nasty effect.

Oh and as for the "Rife microscope", how do you explain that the microscope was claimed to see things that are
in fact smaller than can be seen using the wavelengths and techniques involved? Magic?

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

Chinese Herbal Medicine philosophy believes that each person my be evaluated and treated individually.  What works for one person may or may not work for another.  We are uniquely individual and the way we live our lives further complicates that equation.  Even in the case of identical twins where the DNA is almost exactly alike the treatment of a dis-ease may be radically different.  I think the same thing could be applied to the radionics devices.  Each person may have individual frequencies.  The frequency which may heal one person, could harm another person.  Again in Chinese Herbal Medicine the doctor needs to get to know the patient very well in order to understand their personality, and lifestyle before the doctor will treat a patient.  In this way we alone are responsible for our health.  Who knows you better that you?  If you learn about healing foods and apply that in your own life you are in essence becoming your own doctor.  This is true for other forms of medicine and alternative therapies.  I wouldn't try to do surgery on myself, but I am pretty good a knocking back the occasional cold or flu, and can do a lot to prevent those things.

Blessed Be Brothers...

[Magnethos]

It?s true that a lot of things claimed are scam and are not healing devices or potions. I think that there are some important factors to understand:

1. We have not enought knowledge to know very well the technologies and proccesses to make that holistic remedies effective. There are still a lot to know about that. As the guy said, a therapy may work for one person but using the same therapy with another person would make a different effect. It?s not easy to follow that kind of treatments. But sometimes is claimed that them work.

2. Scams are the most frequently disadvantage because there are too much people that want to earn money, playing with the feeling and emotions of terminal patients. They only claim a magic therapies, but they are only trash. They want only money and they aren?t worried about people health. Some weeks ago, a woman contacted with me to talk me about some miraculous products. I read some information about the studies made with that pills and I haven?t been 100% convenced, but I decided to know a little more about that. The final conclusion that I made is that they only want to sell the product and they don?t know really knowledge about the health. I spoke with a guy of the company and I made to him some questions about health and nutrition. They answered to me that I must only make questions about the business and don?t make questions about the therapy. They only prepare people to sell the product and make money and don?t to cure people.

3. This point is related with the point 1. Think... if a Doctor may don?t know how apply the technique exactly.... How could a patient treat itself? Most people think that kind of therapies are very easy to follow, but I have bought all the book from Hulda Clark are you must study the books for MONTHS. They are difficult to follow, and you must to understand very well what are you doing. A lot of people read a resume of 1 book and they think that they know how can they heal themself. When the people apply the method, they see that the method doesn?t work, and they say that the method is not true. But I think that some remedies could work, like the Bob Beck Protocol. You can build your own devices with the plans that you can get freely from the net. There is also a company that sells the some products ready to use, but if you want to buy your own devices you can make it. So, I think that if the man gave info for free, they therapy could work in some cases.


So, the best way to test if these kind of method are true or not is testing its. We would need to study dozens of books very well and make still some tests to find the best for us. So, if the problem is present in a moment of our lifes, someone will have the opportunity to test that theories and see positive or negative results. Until that day, we won?t know really info about that. We would only know theorical information.

[wizardofmars]

Rife didn't pioneer anything. As I pointed out above, there were literally hundreds of frauds like Rife in the 1800's and early 1900's. You can read "The Medical Messiahs: A Social History of Health Quackery in Twentieth-Century America", a book written in 1967 for free at http://www.quackwatch.org/13Hx/MM/00.html just to get started on the long long list of frauds.

Anyone who believes Barry Lynes book about Rife need to check Lynes credentials. Lynes is a full-time astrologer and conspiracy theorist who got taken for a ride by John Crane, Rife's assistant. Unfortunately for cancer patients, Lynes book started an army of scammers creating and selling Rife machines. It got so bad that in the 1990's Lynes published a new edition apologizing for all the scams he had helped to create. If he really had a conscience he would have done more research and realized that Crane made most of it up. Crane's claims about Rife are clearly those of a man with paranoid delusions.

Here's an example from http://perso.orange.es/ligiajohn/crane_bio.htm

For some reason, in 1992, Crane decided to file a class action against the US authorities. In an affidavit dated 7th June 1992, Crane claimed that he was a private Attorney with over 20 years of litigation experience. In addition he stated that he had worked as an engineer in the "aerospace" industry and spent 14 years learning aerospace trades and jouneyman procedures. He also claimed to have graduated from the Sequoia Research Institute in September 1972 and stated that he had subsequently worked as a professor at the Sequoia University. In the same affidavit, Crane made some wild and exaggerated remarks regarding Rife's career from 1914 to 1939. Crane stated that Rife was "trained by the US Secret Service in Europe.....to catch sabotuers [sic] in Europe in optics by Kark [sic] Zeizz [sic] Corp and other chemical labs having been trained in the USA, Germany, Austria, Swizerland and Belgium in connection with said investigation and training." It is not known how far this legal attempt went, but it marked a sad and pathetic end to Crane's career.

Following Rife?s death in 1971, Crane continued to attract interested investors, but no agreements were concluded. From 1984 to 1988, Rife?s Universal Microscope passed through the hands of several groups and individuals who undertook to restore it, but no progress was made towards this goal. A federal legal action had to be initiated in order to have it returned, finally, to its legitimate owners ? Rife Labs, a company formed to revitalize Rife?s work in accordance with modern scientific methods.... A great deal of the failure to resurrect Rife?s discoveries and inventions in a way that would bring them into mainstream acceptance and utilization for countless people can be attributed to Crane?s greed, ego and obstructionism. He and a cohort of cronies, crooks and low-lifes who surrounded him during the period 1987 ? 1995 tried to exploit (Lynes) book for their own gain, in a way which did not serve the larger public interest, but utterly failed (indeed, did not even attempt) to corroborate Rife?s findings.... Crane died with a reputation for dishonest dealings. He had given the world a precious gift ? preserving Rife?s accomplishment ? but he apparently never comprehended his own greater obligations, and could never rise above his own narrow self-interest in order to accomplish objectives which clearly could have been attained through righteous dealings.?

[triffid]

I am still cured from the arthritis I had before I started wearing the lakhovsky coils I already mentioned before in this thread.I found out too that a personal friend of mine spent a week in Ohio in 2001 with Lee Crock at his church/clinic.At the time my friend was suffering from depression(both his parents had died and his wife of nearly 20 years had divorced him).So Lee Crock was not able to help him at that time.Still my friend enjoyed the week he was there.Triffid