Cancer cure, but FDA and doctors would rather have your cash and not the cure.

[ffonz]

It's ironic that you reject global warming (which is backed by millions of hours of scientific research) and yet appear willing to accept the Beck protocol based on the limited evidence of just your own experience. 

Hi Will..

Keep that open mind .. you're on the right track 

Check this out.. you're in very good company!
Here's a huge bunch of very VERY bright guys who agree with you..

Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate
Michael Asher (Blog) - July 16, 2008 9:35 PM

"Considerable presence" of skeptics

The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming.  The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science.  The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming "incontrovertible."

In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marque explains,

"There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion (that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.)"

The APS is opening its debate with the publication of a paper by Lord Monckton of Brenchley, which concludes that climate sensitivity -- the rate of temperature change a given amount of greenhouse gas will cause -- has been grossly overstated by IPCC modeling.   A low sensitivity implies additional atmospheric CO2 will have little effect on global climate.

Larry Gould, Professor of Physics at the University of Hartford and Chairman of the New England Section of the APS, called Monckton's paper an "expose of the IPCC that details numerous exaggerations and "extensive errors"

In an email to DailyTech, Monckton says, "I was dismayed to discover that the IPCC's 2001 and 2007 reports did not devote chapters to the central 'climate sensitivity' question, and did not explain in proper, systematic detail the methods by which they evaluated it. When I began to investigate, it seemed that the IPCC was deliberately concealing and obscuring its method."

According to Monckton, there is substantial support for his results, "in the peer-reviewed literature, most articles on climate sensitivity conclude, as I have done, that climate sensitivity must be harmlessly low."

Monckton, who was the science advisor to Britain's Thatcher administration, says natural variability is the cause of most of the Earth's recent warming.   "In the past 70 years the Sun was more active than at almost any other time in the past 11,400 years ... Mars, Jupiter, Neptune?s largest moon, and Pluto warmed at the same time as Earth."
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Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Global Warming Debate
Michael Asher (Blog) - July 16, 2008 9:35 PM

"Considerable presence" of skeptics

The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming.  The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science.  The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming "incontrovertible."

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Wrong.

APS Position Remains Unchanged

The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

"Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate."

An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS.  The header of this newsletter carries the statement that "Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum."  This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed.

[wizardofmars]

I guess it's just coincidence that one of worlds most wanted war criminals decided to take up alternative medicine, quantum healing and bio-energy as his alter ego while in hiding. 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4377240.ece

Not even his most imaginative supporters would have guessed that he was hiding behind a New Age persona, providing a bio-energy boost and ?human quantum energy? for clients in a Belgrade suburb. Dr Karadzic, 63, the Bosnian Serb leader who had been on the run for nearly 13 years, was in a cell last night preparing to appeal against his extradition to The Hague, where he faces 11 charges, including genocide carried out allegedly on his orders.

You can't make this stuff up.

[ffonz]

APS Position Remains Unchanged

Hi again Will..

Well well.. the itch is still there.  What a pain.

I guess you and me'll just have to leave the itch to
aggravate itself.. instead of having it aggravating and
sidelining us with all this 'off-the-planet' politicking
that's getting us away from the real purpose of this
thread.. namely to get a handle on the real cures of
cancer for everyone.

BUT.. just to tidy up before we all leave the itch... 

Yes.. true.. the 'APS position' remains unchanged..
but that is just a red herring.. distraction.. diversion..
call it what you will (oops.. sorry Will..  ).  It's so
obvious the itch only read the lead paragraph to the
article.  Maybe when he reads the rest of the article
he'll find what the thread was REALLY all about. 

And just so nobody is left in any doubts.....

The article isn't anything to do with the APS 'position'
per se.. but it has everything to do with a huge group
of VERY perceptive scientists who are at odds with
the public-stated 'global warming position' of the APS
..so it's best to focus on the REAL message.

These highly qualified scientists.. a huge group that is
numbered in the thousands.. are openly of the stance
that they do not believe there is any validity in the APS
'position' that global warming is 'human induced'.. as so
many politicking governments are touting around the
world today (mostly because they can see a massive
taxation cash-cow potential in it for them personally).

Yet another poor excuse to separate the long-suffering
citizens from even more of their now meager incomes
and induce even deeper levels of dependency, bondage,
and default slavery.

Without going into a lot more rhetoric and wasting even
more time and energy - I feel the last words should be
left to the editor of the APS forum.. Jeffrey Marque.. the
thousands of Physicists who are believing in their own
research results.. Larry Gould, Professor of Physics at
the University of Hartford, Chairman of the New England
Section of the APS.. and Lord Monckton, who was the
science advisor to Britain's Thatcher administration.

I'm sure the itch can figure out that these are all to be
found in the rest of the article, after the lead paragraph.

Who do WE listen to Will?  All these dedicated and very
skilled and learned scientists and their obvious commit
to in-depth solid research.. and their open statements
of their findings which debunk the 'human-induced' view..
..or do we listen to the politickers and their unthinking
sycophants (like the itch) who selectively slice and dice
what they want out of it and use it to further their little
political and personal agendas of greed, envy, coercion,
power, control.. -ad nauseum-ad nauseum- ..systems
that pollute and corrupt and destroy all that they touch.

AH YES.. they DO know what is best for us, don't they!

So we are left with one final question..
...........Who has the real and right reality here?...........

The APS 'position' and the itch?..  OR the real scientists?

A faceless, unaccountable 'organisation' BS opinionation?
OR the named, accountable scientists and real research?

Well Will.. I think you and I and everyone else in this
thread can now get back to the real purpose we're here
for.. and focus on helping each other with all manner of
cancer cure findings and sharing them with each other.

Hmmm... this turned out longer than intended so my best
apologies to all for the long read.

Vive La Liberte.. Live long and prosper.. make it so!

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You know.. if I wasn't a reasonable and realistic and
kindly person.. I'd have to say I could easily arrive at
the conclusion the itch comes from another planet.

[ffonz]

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What's up with this.. ..................

User 'hartiberlin1' has exceeded the 'max_questions' resource (current value: 100000)   

Every time I try to go somewhere I keep bumping into this and have to try try try
till it lets me get to where I'm wanting to be.  Really weird. Hope they fix it soon.

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OK.. BACK TO BUSINESS... 

This is my current find/contribution.  Haven't had time
to explore and see if it is any good or not but I'll leave
that up to whoever wants to go there.  It is way more
than just 'cancer'.. lots of other health subjects.. with
heaps of links to go look at.  Keep you all busy for a
heap of days if not weeks if you looked at everything.

here's the link...

http://www.mnwelldir.org/articles.htm

Enjoy the day..

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