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Overunity Machines Forum



verry intresting fuel cell ....

Started by innovation_station, June 04, 2008, 10:51:07 AM

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Koen1

So he's got water, soda, stainless steel, and x.

Soda can be sodium carbonate (Na2CO3), sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3),
or caustic soda (NaOH).
Only the latter is really nasty and something one does not want to touch.

Stainless steel and Aluminium in a sodium carbonate solution can be
used as hV diode.
Aluminium reacts quite heavily with caustic soda.

My guess:
- using aluminium and caustic soda, the aluminium will react and hydrogen gas
is formed.
- when placed in an electrolyte solution, Al should become negatively charged
in respect to Iron

So at the moment I am guessing he's just made a sort of galvanic battery
with one Iron (Fe) electrode and one Aluminium (Al) electrode,
and caustic soda solution as the active electrolyte.
If the electrodes are connected through a wire or otherwise discharged,
gas should form at the electrodes, with the chemical reaction between the
Al and the solution forming H2 and AlO, and the electrical charge on
the steel aids and causes O2 bubble to form...

Am I warm? :)

innovation_station


i think you are cold it is hydgron peroxcide that he uses in the vid and ground stainless

go try it  i used 35 % peroxcide

and it is still PRODUCEING after 3 days.... ;D ;D

ever seen the hydgron peroxcide rocket pack thrustor that runs on 90 + % hydgron peroxcide it was flowen at expo 67 i beleave

yep same thing diffrent applcation  :P

ist

JUST TRY IT!!

a side note what do you think will happen if 90% was used ??

here is your answer instant pressureized hydgron gas in a tank  ;D 8) ;) now what can be done with this??

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

ramset

Thanks 1st I will  any grade stainless?   Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Koen1

ok so he uses H2O2?

Which is 2 OH- + 2e
Which is 2 H2O + O2...

Where do you see it forming H2?

In any case, assuming it does,
that could not even theoretically
produce more output energy than the
energy that was used to make the H2O2....
Could it?

So instead of using H2O2 to produce gas
to burn to produce energy,
would it not be more efficient to skip that step
and use the energy you were going to use to
make the H2O2 directly as power?

Sounds to me like something similar to the
entire hydrogen as fuel thing: it takes more
energy to produce the fuel and use it to produce
energy again than it does to use the energy directly...

Yes, a source of hydrogen.
No, not a grand overunity nor "free energy" development...

Or am I overlooking something?

retroworm

Yes, I'm not quite understanding how you are getting H2 by mixing H2O2 with steel scrap, either. In the video he clearly says he uses aluminum, and it's fairly common knowledge that aluminum, mixed with lye, releases hydrogen...Or are we not talking about that video anymore, I'm confused :).

Hydrogen peroxide decomposes into water and oxygen quite easily with metal catalysts, but I'm not sure where you get the hydrogen from.