Lutec small demo machine proof of overunity video

[seeker]

These people are a scam. I think they are actually South African.

[valveman]

REF: Lutec Small Motor

Their measurements are flawed.  DC power and AC power have different units.
AC power is measured in VA (Volt Amps )
The reason DC and AC power measurements are not the same is as follows:
DC has no frequency component and therefore voltage and current are in phase.
AC has a frequency component and voltage and current are not in phase so power
is the RMSvoltage x RMScurrent.

Comparing the DC power with the AC power is meaningless.  You can however convert the VA to a comparible real power by using the following formula.
VA is simply calculated by rmsvolts x rmscurrent
Power factor PF is the ratio of True Power/Apparent Power
Calculating PF is not always easy so a convention/estimate is used as 0.6 and is unitless.

                                                             (VAxPF)=Watts

So using this formula, the motor power is 16.4VA x 0.6 =9.84W

Seeing that these people didn't seem to know about VA, it is apparent that their overunity may be
problematic since their measurements don't make sense.  If their AC voltage and current was measured using peak reading meters then:

(1.4Ax0.707)x(11Vx0.707)=7.7VA             7.7VA x 0.6=4.61W  even less power estimated and is most likely less than this because the Power Factor has not been given.

As you can see it is easy for some of these people to fudge results to trick you in believing they have an overunity motor.


Valveman

[superlambchops]

Read the "How it Works" Sound like nothing more than a plain old DC motor connected to a AC generator.

They also talk about a magnet holding a load to a beam as if it is doing work. The force may be sufficient to keep the load suspended but holding something stationary doesn't qualify as doing work. They compare it to an electromagnet and talk about wasted energy. The lost energy is because of resistance of the coils not because it is doing work to keep the load suspended.

[Flit]

...talk about a magnet holding a load to a beam as if it is doing work. The force may be sufficient to keep the load suspended but holding something stationary doesn't qualify as doing work.

Yes, using this concept you could power their machine using clothes pegs or masking tape, they do just as much work holding things in place.

A search of the patent database at IP Australia shows no patents that match any of the numbers they quote on their website.  Nor do there seem to be any patents filed under their names.

No product and constant stalling, seems like a pretty obvious scam.  The Lutec heading should be moved into the scam section where it belongs.

[Jaltek]

@ Bluey
Do you have plans of the machine or can they be viewed somewhere.