I'm changing my objective...

[esotericandme]

I succomb... a car will never run on water alone...

but...

what if there is half circle loop that goes on... maybe add another transfer of energy? physics say give to take... alright I'll give... let me wait instead of work? ya know spend up some high quality time... what if a stretch of time is a form of energy? hmm... I smoke to much weed...
let me plug in my car at night so it is powered and ready to go for the morning commute.

why is that you ask, because I am a common american who can't afford to buy the electrical drive train it would cost to retrofit my current gasoline rig.

so electrolysis has to work... in some way or another... it is involved in the system.

My revised theory...

What is needed.
A. An HHO supplement system, capable of creating a 30% increase in fuel economy.
B. An aftermarket replacement fuel tank that has been split into 2 separate HIGH PSI tanks. One for oxygen, one for hydrogen.
C. An HHO electrolyzer in the trunk, with a 8 gallon tank of water. route the gas created into another "invention".
D.This missing component will separate the hydrogen from the oxygen and pressurize them in their separate tanks to be used by the engine. This one can be setup to run on any standard 110v outlet.

Efficiency is key. Although an electric motor would be a more efficient use of the energy, I don't got the money for that kind of mod to my car... And neither does the rest of the gas guzzling peeps of america... Capitalism is dying... let it go...

We will utilize the already in place infrastructure of transpo, current new cars, used, classic... all of em... and we'll replace gasoline with hydrogen... hydrogen we get from the electrolysers that zap H20.

in a nutshell, you have to install a new fuel tank, and 2 electrolyzers. one that is run by the car to improve fuel usage, and one that you plug in when the vehicle is parked to "refuel". how long the car has to be plugged in will be determined when we know how much hydrogen we can store in the available space we have... a 10 gallon gas tank. How much hydrogen can be fit in there.

Please tell me where I go wrong here...


Unless you point something out I've missed... this seems to me, to be a plausible model, that falls within the realms of the laws of thermodynamics and the laws of physics.

the only thing that would change is my gas bill would get rerouted to my electric bill. and I'm completly ok with that.

what makes this impossible?

[WilbyInebriated]

hi, since you are willing to change objectives, take a look here.
http://gas2.org/2008/05/14/a-truck-that-runs-on-coffee-grounds-and-how-wood-gas-powers-cars-with-garbage/
more here
http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml
from FEMA??!!!??  must be a conspiracy...

mmmm,the smell of coffee instead of the reek of unburnt petro. who knows, maybe you can get some eco friendly coffee shop to sponsor you 

[triffid]

Yes this is really great stuff,Thank you very much.I used to set up college labs for the" destructive distillation of wood "experiments back when I was an undergrad.Even though the results were smelly.You could burn the vapor coming off the wood.Triffid

[enki09]

Maybe the secret to this is in the electrical charge and how it is produced or distributed to the electrolysis cells....

[utilitarian]

the only thing that would change is my gas bill would get rerouted to my electric bill. and I'm completly ok with that.

what makes this impossible?

I think that is a great idea.  One thing you mentioned that is probably not workable is using an extra gasoline tank to store hydrogen.  Hydrogen is very light and so it must be compressed a great deal to have any decent amount of it.  That requires a very thick and heavy tank.  So you need to calculate having to carry the heavy tank against efficiency gains of hydrogen.  You will still come out ahead, but the added weight is a drawback.