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Overunity Machines Forum



How Many Of You......

Started by mbramble, June 18, 2008, 11:25:39 AM

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denmason

Ok, here we go. I have a 1988 Chevy Silverado 2500 5.7. I've done a few modifications to it over the years. When it was new it got about 16 mpg. Here's the mods: shaved the throttle body to allow more air flow. Throttle body spacer, injector spacer, adjustable fuel pressure regulator, high performance fuel pump, Airaid intake with K&N air filter, Halo spark plugs, MSD coil and wires, free flow cat and Flowmaster exhaust, and I rewrote my ECM with my laptop. I think that most everything, anyway after these mods mileage went to 20 to 22 highway.
Now I've built a few Smack boosters with modifications, manly using 22 gauge 316L stainless plates 8 x 3.25. 18 plates spaced 1mm and held with 1/4" SS all thread rods. Running 12v to the booster with a PWM, amperage between cells is around 1.3 and warmed up it's around 1.8 to 2.0. Don't know the LPM output the the bubbler goes wild. Mileage so far on highway is up to 28 and I hope it get's better as the plates become more conditioned with time. Things I noticed with the booster on, motor runs smoother, idle has been adjusted down to 800 rpm and is very smooth. Throttle response is quick, torque is up and the tires BARK! easily into 3rd gear when the tranny shifts. Other thing I noticed is a puff of steam in the mornings at start up. I've been able to lean out my fuel mix without burning plugs or valves. The HHO is piped right into the air cleaner plenum just before the butterflies.
I don't know about the nay sayers,  but I'm sticking with this and I will get much better at it also as I learn more and more.

HHO King


CrazyEwok

Just some small facts you might want to know before you all start down this trail...
1. The higher the octane the slow the fuel burns... HUH?!? SLOWER??? yes slower, slower burning fuels give of more power when under compression and are safer to transport (aledgedly).
2. To run your car off HHO is a bigger task than a booster. A booster if set up properly can utilize THE EXCESS power that your alternator produces to power your cell. I have seen people lean their engines right down to almost 70% gains in KM/L (thats kilometers per liter) but they are cars that have been specifically altered and customized for their cells.
3. You best gains will be in if you use the highest grade fuel you can and the most HHO you can produce (find a cell design you like and buy an  "off the shelf" controller curcuit and give it a go... worst case senario is you lean your car out to much and it stalls so adjust your mix and keep going.

some suggestions i have is get your cylinders and pistons ceramic coated and stainless steel valves if you plan on running HHO anywhere near 70%. this will stop cylinder rusting if your car sits there for to long.
Don't worry about hydrolisation, there was a case study done (i can't rememebr the link but it was years ago) that it would take in excess of 4-5 years of extreme use under pure HHO running for the effects of hydrolisation to effect your engine in anyway. If you want to do more than just a small percentage of HHO production for your engine (more than 15%) upgrade your alternator. Funnily enough they do all have different outputs and there are upgrades out there usually in the Audio sound groups they want bigger alternators to power their speakers...
This is not a self sufficient power for cars... YET... but it is getting there.

As for proof on the 70% gains in milage i should point out that the car has 2 alternators installed and has almost no top-end power. (he can cruise at 150km/h though, speed limit here is 110km/h). His acceleration is about the  same as normal.

Booster should work by utilizing your unused power generated by your alternator (careful here as the amount of power generated is proportional to the impact it has on your engine.)

frog


@CrazyEwok

You REALLY should watch the videos that Roy McAllister has out. You have stated some truths, but not all you have posted
is correct. Just an observation, not a call to arms! :)


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CrazyEwok

Hey Frog.
I'm not saying everything is true i am saying that it is my opinion. But if some of what i have said is true and some not ture point out the non-truths if you can for i am installing my 4th cell revision this weekend and if you can improve my system i would greatly appreciate it?