URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Shiver]

Hi retrod,
Also @ Dmoney and others with similar setups:
Can you adapt a long clear tube vertical filled with water over the sparkplug? Fill the tube with water and see how high the water will rise with the spark/explosion?

It's a cheap and quick way to measure approximately how much work energy you can get out of the spark with water as the exploding/expanding medium.

A piece of wadding (eg. cotton wool or something more dense) on top of the water might provide an easier way to mark the height that it rises, as it looks to be too quick for the eye.  I think the experiments so far in moving something don't really do it justice, as the energy either isn't contained, or is in a container so big as to be able to accomodate the explosion.  It looks like a rapid expansion and collapse.  A smaller container or a more full container would likely show a very different outcome.  Ideally something like a hydraulic ram and a torque wrench would show it in its best light.

[resonanceman]

Hi all,

Gary , the general idea is say 4 pulses in a group each increasing in power ( height ) as the pulse train progresses. We can rig up some fancy electronics but someone will do that, if you have mechiancial knowledge then thats very welcome here.

One thought - 4 sprak plugs per cylinder ( they could be small ). The idea behind this is increasing the contact with the water to guarantee a big burn. Onviously this means increasing the electrical grunt to run them but thats easy to do. My thought are that water needs one helluva boot to get it moving and gassiefied, so I figure maybe 2 plugs give it the initial boot, then the 3rd & 4th give it the firing shot.

I'm hoping to do a basic proof of concept test for a single plug soon, and the quad plug idea later. The plugs dont have to be fancy at all - as long as they can carry current and 400V DC voltage.

Just a thought.

Cheers & beers,

Steve.

Steve

I  don't think  increasing   power  with  each pulse   will help  very much.

In my opinion  plasma is plasma  .........when  plasma  contacts water   the  water   is  broken down .
The question is .........how do we make the most plasma  with the  least  input power?
One  way may  be  resonance
Another may  be  RE
Another  may  be  AC or  pulsed DC
I am thinking  that   the  plasma    probably  is created  very quickly ........but  when the power is  cut  takes  a certain  amount of time for the  heat to disperse .
If the LV  was  talored  to build up  the heat  then  cut  off  just until the plasma  is about  to dissipate we should  be able to  get  more  bang for the buck .


I think  that  it is  just  a matter of getting  enough  plasma  into  the cylinder 
More spark plugs might be a good  way to do that ...... bigger  gaps  on the plugs would help too .

gary 

[bumfuzzled]

Made a lil video of things I've been experimenting with. Check it out you might even get a laugh out of it at the very end. lol.Believe me when I say the video does not do it justice. I was wearing ear plugs it was so loud and I still have a headache. It's very late and I'm tired, I'll comment on it more tomorrow.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zcjioyPM598

[ahchoooo]

OK, I used a SPDT relay to control the switching in Luc's simple circuit, and now I can have the diodes connected without the bleeding effect. However, I cannot see any noticeable difference on the sparks between diode or no diode. It could be due to the fact that my spark plug has a 3.6K ohm resistance, which I cannot remove. Spraying the plug with water does make a difference in the spark. Has anyone tried to disconnect the diodes to see if it makes any difference? Was it because of the internal resistance that there is no difference in my sparks?

Was the phenomenon due to the theory that the HV creates a plasma first, followed by a LV flow of current from the capacitor burning the water? If that is the case, wouldn't a larger capacitor would have worked better? (I am currently using a 350uF, 450V.) How does the RE theory fit into all this?

Is Luc still on this thread? Or has he left? Who is now moderating?

James

[whopper1967]

@bumfuzzle
that is hilarious,and very impressive......you definately gave me a laugh today,I can just picture it.....one question..what did your plug look like after all that,was anything left of it?Oh,btw,which version of the circuit are you using....thanks...