URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[winner]

Has anyone tried using a nebulizer to create a water mist?

Camion, I've seen reports from at least two experimenters that mist ignition did not have an impact on the pressure from these water explosions. It seems a mist is not going to add explosive power, that some larger mass of water is better for this effect. As a mere observer at this point, I cannot say much more. It may be though that mist ignition may provide OU otherwise.

[plasmastudent77]

Hi All,

I found this on the S1r9....forum here :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3977.0.html

As SR1 described it I think its like this :

(1) The 110V DC is designed to create a strong magnetic field using the spark plug - this I think may be the "softening up" required to be done to the water molecule.

Interstingly on the Papp motor ( which appears to be a water motor heavily disguised ) , there are coils around the water feed pipe which I think may do the same "softening up". This should polarise or at least start to break down the water by putting it under magnetic stress.

But also, as the 110V DC is removed, the magnetic field collapses from the spark plug inside the engine cylinder, and this magnetic field collapse may produce a strong EMF ( voltage ) that may stress water vapor already in the engine cyclinder and may provide a rapid step up in the stress on the water in the cyclinder of the engine, at that moment.

Thinking about this a bit more, it appears this might be a two stage pulse stress on the water, *possibly* similar to the like the "pulse train" Meyer showed in his patent and shows on his drawings.

(2) The 110V DC is applied all the time to the spark plug - except at the exact moments the ignition coil is firing through the spark plug. SR1 cleverly uses the distributor to send a pulse to his relays to open and close them at the required times to achieve this.

The 8 relays in the box that SR1 uses appears to be nothing more than one relay per cylinder for his V8 engine. 

Each relay ( one per cyclinder ) is connected to the distributor to disconnect the 110V DC from each plug just before the spark fires through the spark plug and then reconnects immediately afterward to re-establish the magnetic field through the spark plug again.

According to SR1, it seems that the 110V DC is *not* what burns the water, rather the ignition spark does - but his circuits appear to have the coil current up to 10 Amps, which at 50 KV is quite a boot.

Intersting point -

If I understand GotoLucs circuit correctly, what SR1 is saying is slightly different to what GotoLuc is doing. GotoLuc uses a cap to pulse the spark plug, *but* doesnt have the 110V DC applied to the spark plug just before the spark fires and so no magnetic field is present before the capacitor fires.


FYI - the text from the above URL:  ( http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3977.0.html )


"Super God

Did you know that s1r9a9m9 started posting again on the waterfuel1978 forum!

This is what he posted yesterday:

The relay I used has two sets of coils and resisters in them. The
same thing can be made by blocking the currents from the plug wire
from going into the inverter and blocking the current from the
inverter going to the plug wire, but leaving an open loop for both
at the plug by grounding the inverter at the plug base and no where
else on the vehicle.

The inverter has a constant current going to the plug except when
the distrubitor sends fire through the plug wire. The inverter needs
to be blocked only for the time it takes the plug to fire from the
distrubitor, and the same for the distrubitor blocked from the
inverter.

What goes on with the plug tip? well the inverter sends a current
to the tip where there is water , the plug tip now has a magnetic
field around it when the plug is fired from the distrubitor the
field is incressed and the extra amps causes a arc to form in the
clyender that expands the water as like a lighting bolt would. You
can expand water but you cant compress it. Yes if to much water is
in the cylender it will lock the engine. Thats why the timeing is
set after TDC .

Gas will not burn, gas vapor will burn. A carberator is designed
to vaporize gas as it inters the intake manifold under a vacummn.
Water will become partly vaporized and the rest is used to incress
the compression in the clyender. A fuel injecter sprays a mist of
fluid not vapor. It will partly vaporize in the clyender before the
plug fires. That is why cars with carbs and cars with injecters have
defferent time even for the same size engines. There is a few
degrees defferents in them.

The relays I used did not have any numbers or names or any marking
on them at all. The parts I found that would work cost $600.00(US)
for each clyender, and I was ask not to give out that info becaused
of what they were used for. Home Land Secuirty Issue's. I dont
ask , I dont tell. Plus how many people would spend their rent
money for the parts. None of this can be patented and sold.

I hope this will help others finish their projects."

Thoughts and ideas welcome!


Cheers & beers,

Steve

[goldenequity]

pretty amazing.... helps to get your head around what we are
trying to do here.
Internal Video of a running engine (slow mo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roGZp_QZuZA

[gotoluc]

Is Luc still on this thread? Or has he left? Who is now moderating?

James

Hi everyone, I am still here but like I said a few times before, I am very busy with a home renovation project at this time. It is now 2am and this is the only time I have to quickly look through the tread. The home renovation project will end at the end of next week. Them I will have all my time once again to continue the development and building of my clear Lexan engine.

Keep up the good work everyone.

Luc

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