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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Hi Sandy,

I liked the recommendation of adding cap on the dc side of my bridge output to see if the voltage peaks of my charge capacitor are from there. The answer is yes! that is what was happening! by keeping a cap on the bridge output now every time the relay reconnected to charge the cap it only goes up to 168 volts. So it appears to me now! that the dc side of a bridge (with 120vac input) can swings high enough to charge a (non polarized) 6.8uf cap to 210vdc since that is the highest I have seen it charge without the inductor. When I add the inductor in series on the switching leg of the relay it can charge up to 310vdc.

I don't know if you are still interested to continue looking at this effect? please let me know if you are.

I see from your picture that my meter seems to have a 1 digit before the other 3. I just did a quick test with a 9v battery on the 2v scale and that is the digit that displays 1 when the input is (overload) higher than the scale. Also please note that when the spark event happens my meters and computer LCD flicker all the digits. I even have a LCD calculator that is off and will turn on on its own and all digits will light up. See my Krupa video for an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrPu7AI50w

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: allcanadian on August 21, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
@Kator01Personally I don't take very many measurements as they tend to be misleading in most cases with the circuits in question. I prefer understanding the qualities of the components over measurement, in the case of an inductive discharge the voltage can pass through a coil (analog meter) with little or no reaction while a digital meter will show only remnants of an impulse that has already passed and any measurement depends on the components of the meter itself. One misunderstanding concerns the inductance itself, if we consider an inductance as having inertia or momentum then it should be obvious that two forces must develop when the source current is removed from an inductance. One force compresses ahead of the inductance producing high potentials in an infinitely small time frame, the other force expands behind the inductance producing high potentials in an infinitely small time frame. This is something I do not think you will ever measure accurately to any degree, you have to "know" what is happening through understanding the qualities of the components and the ways energy can be transformed. It may be helpfull to understand that the two forces produced in an inductive discharge ( Compression-Expansion ) can be seperated to some extent and produce reactions in and of themselves if certain criteria are met. To prove this fact we can use an ignition coil to raise the potential of the source current, the ignition coil will discharge (arc) to the (+) source terminal, it will discharge to the (-) source terminal, it will also discharge to the metallic end of a screwdriver or any metal object having no relation to the circuit producing the discharge. But we should remember that if we believe that a compression must also be balanced by an expansion as we see everywhere in nature then this arc discharge to the screwdrivers metal end only represents one half of the energy present. ;D

Hi allcanadian, as always I really enjoy your help and input. Thanks for keeping an eye ;) on the topic.

Luc

gotoluc

@everyone,

I'm bringing this over from the Energetic Forum since I find it interesting. User name: Ozicell is playing around with sparks and has this effect.

Keep in mind he has a aluminum bench that is touching the ground (Earth) to some extent which could create some capacitance.

Luc

Hi Guys, I did something today which was totally and accident. I had intended doing a demo of the pulstar spark as opposed to a standard spark, so I moved a few things on my bench to one side and started the motor. What I had was a spark jumping from an unattached coil to a ball plug sitting in my open pressure chamber.

I replicated this for the first video here and then did another video showing the difference between the spark lead jumping directly to the plug as opposed to the coil and bench.

Cheers
Jeff

Coil to sparkplug jump: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDq8LzzpODU

Spark coil amplified V std spark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJkZyaxTlo

Hi guys,

I just did that extra video for your consideration. Firstly, plug is firing with every pulse but you can't always see it because of the angle. Secondly, when I place the spark lead near the secondary from the coil, the spark jump between spark lead and coil lead goes almost invisible - very fine and faint but still jumps the gap, however, at the coil to plug end and the business end of the plug I get really fat white sparks with loud snaps. I don't know why this happens! Why does the spark lead to coil secondary lead spark become so faint when everywhere else it's strong and fat?

Anyway, thought it might be interesting to you all, enjoy!

Playing with the spark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd1oTi9_4Ng

Cheers
Jeff




gotoluc

@everyone,

I can't resist this one and I think allcanadian would enjoy this one. He is a YouTube user called: crob227

I've see his videos before but this new one is intersting ;D

Luc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OelWIh2lmfE

ramset

LUC   that is a jaw dropper .Thanks ,   Chet
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