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[Kator01]

Hi Luc,

please look up this thread here from the beginning and contact member  nul-points for this :

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4419.0.html

Regards

Kator

[NerzhDishual]

@Kator01: good point!

@GotoLuc: It sounds like that your coil is "doing something"...
You can also check this JLN's experiment: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tepcoil.htm
I have replicated it. It works. The charge seems not being conserved.

"Introvertebrate" is also playing with caps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3DwpshYxU

But, Nul-Points (Dr Ringwood/Sandy) is, IMHO, the more advanced
in all these matters.

(I have just seen your new vids. I will try with less diodes and also with mist).

Best

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc,

please look up this thread here from the beginning and contact member  nul-points for this :

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4419.0.html

Regards

Kator

Hi Kator, thanks for thinking of me. I looked at nul-point's topic and think he is much too scientific for my understanding of things. Sorry it's not going to get my interest. I build stuff and if it shows an interesting effect, I'll make a videos to explain what I found. nul-point writes long posts about it with math calculations and not even a picture of anything, see the difference

I learn best by seeing something, 2nd best is hearing. Reading about how to make something is way down the bottom for me. I never read instructions when it comes time to put something together. I just look at all the parts and then visually build it in my mind then physically do it.

That's just the way I've worked for the past 47 years.

Luc

[nul-points]

hi Luc

interesting setup!

i looked at your vid about the cap voltage anomaly

it seems to me that at the moments when you read out "300V" the DVM reading is instantaneously ONE THOUSAND and something - is that possible on that range?

could someone else take a look at the vid - maybe in slomo? - it certainly looks to me like there is a leading 1 in the left-hand 4th digit for the instant you say '300'

thanks NerzhDishual & Kator for linking me in to this phenomenon - i think its probably related to the effect which NerzhDishual and i (and lately others, like Introvertebrate on YT, too) have observed when switching charge between capacitors

conventional ElectroDynamics indicates that theoretically 50% of the supply energy in charging a capacitor to a given amount should be dissipated - as heat or radiation - in order to do the work of charging the cap

however, it seems to be accepted that some of this loss can be reduced by introducing an inductive element into the charging path - so what is this saying - that it is now possible to do the same work with less energy?!?

imagine rolling a stone up a hill - you do work to get the stone up the hill and when it's at the top it also has some potential energy of its own, which can be released by dropping or rolling the stone off the hill

that's the original conventional story

now someone comes along and says "push the stone up the hill, a few steps at a time and using this spring - the stone will still have the same potential energy but you won't have to do so much work to get it to the top"

doesn't sound likely, does it?  but that is exactly what's happening with these caps which we're charging up by switching current into it thro' a coil

with careful attention to adding a load into the charge path, it's possible to make use of the charging energy AND use the potential energy which gets stored in the cap too - this brings you to around unity (minus usual I^2 x R losses)

however, we've found that something funky is going on in the switched charge transfer process which appears to be giving more charge out than in - so now you can have around unity PLUS significant gain = OVERunity

i've noted this informally on a dedicated website
  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc  and also started a thread (as referenced by Kator above - for which thanks)


i started out experimenting with switched charge to caps because H. Aspden predicted that it may be possible to get more energy out of a charged cap than is supplied, due to a 'spin inertia' effect of the vacuum medium/'aether'/energetic plenum - the fundamental energy 'lattice' which he and many others (including in the past, Maxwell & Einstein) believe permeates all space - when subject to a pulsed polarisation

at first it seemed highly unlikely to me, but i've had to admit that this effect is real - and the best explanation conventional science can offer is 'measurement error'! 

i suspect that you're seeing much increased gain than those of us just looking at the switched carge anomaly because you're using a relay (true switch) whereas the switches in my tests & those of others, looking at the same phenomenon, are usually Transistor or MOSFET

not sure that i've really added anything here but good 'luc' in all your efforts 

all the best
sandy

PS - i've just written this in response to Kator & NerzhDishual's suggestion that there might be some link between the effect you asked for input on and the results which several of us have been getting with switched charge experiments - in the meantime i see you've looked at my results whilst i've been writing this post - and unfortunately you don't seem interested - c'est la vie  ;o(

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site
  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

[gotoluc]

hi Luc

interesting setup!

i looked at your vid about the cap voltage anomaly

it seems to me that at the moments when you read out "300V" the DVM reading is instantaneously ONE THOUSAND and something - is that possible on that range?

could someone else take a look at the vid - maybe in slomo? - it certainly looks to me like there is a leading 1 in the left-hand 4th digit for the instant you say '300'

thanks NerzhDishual & Kator for linking me in to this phenomenon - i think its probably related to the effect which NerzhDishual and i (and lately others, like Introvertebrate on YT, too) have observed when switching charge between capacitors

conventional ElectroDynamics indicates that theoretically 50% of the supply energy in charging a capacitor to a given amount should be dissipated - as heat or radiation - in order to do the work of charging the cap

however, it seems to be accepted that some of this loss can be reduced by introducing an inductive element into the charging path - so what is this saying - that it is now possible to do the same work with less energy?!?

imagine rolling a stone up a hill - you do work to get the stone up the hill and when it's at the top it also has some potential energy of its own, which can be released by dropping or rolling the stone off the hill

that's the original conventional story

now someone comes along and says "push the stone up the hill, a few steps at a time and using this spring - the stone will still have the same potential energy but you won't have to do so much work to get it to the top"

doesn't sound likely, does it?  but that is exactly what's happening with these caps which we're charging up by switching current into it thro' a coil

with careful attention to adding a load into the charge path, it's possible to make use of the charging energy AND use the potential energy which gets stored in the cap too - this brings you to around unity (minus usual I^2 x R losses)

however, we've found that something funky is going on in the switched charge transfer process which appears to be giving more charge out than in - so now you can have around unity PLUS significant gain = OVERunity

i've noted this informally on a dedicated website
  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc  and also started a thread (as referenced by Kator above - for which thanks)


i started out experimenting with switched charge to caps because H. Aspden predicted that it may be possible to get more energy out of a charged cap than is supplied, due to a 'spin inertia' effect of the vacuum medium/'aether'/energetic plenum - the fundamental energy 'lattice' which he and many others (including in the past, Maxwell & Einstein) believe permeates all space - when subject to a pulsed polarisation

at first it seemed highly unlikely to me, but i've had to admit that this effect is real - and the best explanation conventional science can offer is 'measurement error'! 

i suspect that you're seeing much increased gain than those of us just looking at the switched carge anomaly because you're using a relay (true switch) whereas the switches in my tests & those of others, looking at the same phenomenon, are usually Transistor or MOSFET

not sure that i've really added anything here but good 'luc' in all your efforts 

all the best
sandy

PS - i've just written this in response to Kator & NerzhDishual's suggestion that there might be some link between the effect you asked for input on and the results which several of us have been getting with switched charge experiments - in the meantime i see you've looked at my results whilst i've been writing this post - and unfortunately you don't seem interested - c'est la vie  ;o(

Doc Ringwood's Free Energy site
  http://ringcomps.co.uk/doc

Hi Sandy,

Thanks for looking at this tread. First thing I did for you or anyone interested is upload the Capacitor Voltage Spikes test video on Megaupload: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RP6DLZV3

Please download it from there since the quality will be about twice as good to what you can see on YouTube.

If your computer won't play it, you will need to install Cole Media Codec Pack or some Codec pack like that.

You will be able to see the voltage meter clearly with this video. The meter is set to the highest scale which is 600 volts. I think the most it can display is 999 (3 digits) but it can also display a minus next to the 3 digits, so -999. I don't think it has more digits than that.

I was also thinking that the relay contacts could be part of the effect. I was thinking that since I used that relay for a while now that it could of formed some kind of oxidization on the surface of the contacts that could cause a kind of resistance but the kind that is good. I can take the relay apart now since I fried it last night when doing tests at high pulse rates which surprised me. I could crank that relay up to 30hz. The spark was so loud and powerfull that I had to use my construction ear muffs. I was also trying to measure the energy consumed at that frequency but had no luck. My amp meter was showing negative. I don't think that is real because I have had this many time before. I'll try other things and let you know if I find anything more.

Please don't think that I'm not interested in your work! we just have a different style. I am interested in anything that can help mankind out of the walls we have created.

Luc