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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: peteroks on August 18, 2008, 01:13:18 AM
yep just managed to finish a modified version of cap70 design a have got a working unit with regular plasma discharges.This design is great ,no diodes ,running off wall ac for the lv circuit ,just was a matter of getting the right combo of caps,in the right size/rating.This circuit has an ignition switch and manually controlled points setup -- Now the next step those marine plugs and a switching device for the [points] and onto a b&s motor 8)

Hi peteroks, are you sure you're sharing this in the right topic?

I'm happy if you are anyways ;D

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: michaelpaul on August 18, 2008, 10:37:41 AM
Hi Peteroks, I will attempt to build cap70 design this week. Is there anyway you could post some pics of your build?

Hi michaelpaul, if you don't mind, please go to: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3977.0/topicseen.html
where cap70 is sharing his circuit as the one being shared here is different and I think it would create less confusion for newcomers if we do keep them separate

Thanks for understanding ;)

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: Aka on August 18, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
I have followed this thread since it was first posted and have now finally read every post on the 34 pages... phew... it has been so exciting to see so many positive people all trying to get this working to make some difference in the world, so for that I wish to thank everyone

I am not very skilled in electronics or machining parts so I feel I am limited to what I can achieve but I can do what I can and will share anything I find



about the spark plugs... I have seen standard plugs (with resistor removed), homemade 2x nails spark gap, homemade plug, homemade firestorm plug for use in the experiment and they seem to work but I wanted to find some info on more nonstandard types that could be used with better effects for this circuit

I have drawn a diagram(attached) of a plug type that I would like to test but have no real way of doing so at the moment, it is based on what I understand from a plasma gasification unit and my thought is that with the gap set up along the length we can have a longer spark and more surface area along the walls for the water to become effected into the spark and hopefully have more power to drive a piston... it is drawn twice, the bottom version I was trying to shorten the plug so there is less volume of air that could be compressed and cause less pressure

the arrow in the 2d picture shows the water spray nozzle, the idea is that it would spray in between firings down the tube but have a valve that prevents any pressure from travelling back up the pipe, also the pipe would have to be insulated to prevent the spark grounding back up the water supply

from what I can tell this would be a new kind of spark plug... I have tried searching but didn't find anything like it so it would have to be made from scratch

let me know if anything like this exists or if you think it has problems with anything thanks

Thank you Aka for sharing your spark plug ideas. Looks good and I hope someone has the time to build and test this.

Keep up the great work.

Luc

gotoluc

Quote from: resonanceman on August 18, 2008, 09:16:55 PM
Welcome AKA

I have been thinking along the same lines as you .

I made a quick  drawing  of  a similar idea .

I made the  anode black .
The  idea  is to keep  the anode mostly dry .
This  design would  spey the water  across the ramps  at the cathode . 
The arc should hit the water   near the center of the  chamber .

It is not intended for the arc to hit all the water .   
I think  a mix  of  plasma and  water drops  intering the  cylinder  would be ideal . 


I  almost went back and  made a  change.
I was thinking that    removing one   of the  blue  water  tubes would make  room for   a wire to the cathode .
If the wire was internal   then   the  plug shell  could be nuteral  .  ..................   
I  think  if we ground both  HV and LV  on the  engine  someone is eventually going to  make a mistake and end up  charcoal .


Thank you also resonanceman for sharing your interesting ideas. I hope with all the 3 design ideas shared on this single page someone can create the ideal Injection Spark Plug.

Luc

gotoluc

@everyone,

I just uploaded a new video demonstrating only a Diode test. I think Diode quantity can vary depending on plug gap, cap size and charged voltage. This video is only to bring awareness to replicators that diodes can have an efficiency effect on the circuit. I would recommend for you to test and find what works best for your own application and circuit.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpYyf0BW0jM

I did not show this in the video but I can get the intense spark to happen with the 16 diode string with the 22uf cap but it needs to be charged to 146vdc = .234 Joule compare to 22uf at 120vdc = .158 Joule with 6 diodes and both give the same spark quality.

I have used this new 6 diode string with the 1.9uf cap bank charged to well over 1000vdc and they are still working fine as you can see in this demo video. I'll let you all know if and when they fail.

This shows that different combination will give different results. So we need to test and find what works best for our own application or circuit.

Luc