URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Aka]

I have followed this thread since it was first posted and have now finally read every post on the 34 pages... phew... it has been so exciting to see so many positive people all trying to get this working to make some difference in the world, so for that I wish to thank everyone

I am not very skilled in electronics or machining parts so I feel I am limited to what I can achieve but I can do what I can and will share anything I find



about the spark plugs... I have seen standard plugs (with resistor removed), homemade 2x nails spark gap, homemade plug, homemade firestorm plug for use in the experiment and they seem to work but I wanted to find some info on more nonstandard types that could be used with better effects for this circuit

I have drawn a diagram(attached) of a plug type that I would like to test but have no real way of doing so at the moment, it is based on what I understand from a plasma gasification unit and my thought is that with the gap set up along the length we can have a longer spark and more surface area along the walls for the water to become effected into the spark and hopefully have more power to drive a piston... it is drawn twice, the bottom version I was trying to shorten the plug so there is less volume of air that could be compressed and cause less pressure

the arrow in the 2d picture shows the water spray nozzle, the idea is that it would spray in between firings down the tube but have a valve that prevents any pressure from travelling back up the pipe, also the pipe would have to be insulated to prevent the spark grounding back up the water supply

from what I can tell this would be a new kind of spark plug... I have tried searching but didn't find anything like it so it would have to be made from scratch

let me know if anything like this exists or if you think it has problems with anything thanks

[Aka]

I just realised in my drawing I shouldn't have insulated the end of the plug where the screw thread is, that part should be connected to the screw thread like a normal plug is...

[NerzhDishual]

Hi witty and creative guys,

It is a real pleasure to seeing such intelligence/creativity in this very thread.
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@Bumfuzzled: It is strictly forbidden to be in advance. Were you not taught so? 
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Hi NerzhDishual, great build there ..................
Excellent work. Luc

@GotoLuc: thanks for you kind compliments. But I just copied something that was not of
my own but initially yours... BTW: thanks for your 'impulsing' very breakthrough.

My (shabby/poor) understanding is the following: The diode(s) can be 'replaced' by a significant DC voltage...(Initial GotoLuc Circuit ). You can also have diode(s) with DC voltage (Aaron circuit )...
Some of you have spoken about this mysterious 'splitting the positive'. Is this about?
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I was just wondering: if these diodes have such an effect (and it actually have) , why do
not try to connect such diode(s) on a 'real' motor and see what is happening?

I'm far from a mechanic and also far from a lot of electronic stuffs.
I'm just also wondering what the (universal) heck am I not far from?

I'm a poor lonesome replicating guy far away from my own.

Best

[resonanceman]

I have followed this thread since it was first posted and have now finally read every post on the 34 pages... phew... it has been so exciting to see so many positive people all trying to get this working to make some difference in the world, so for that I wish to thank everyone

I am not very skilled in electronics or machining parts so I feel I am limited to what I can achieve but I can do what I can and will share anything I find



about the spark plugs... I have seen standard plugs (with resistor removed), homemade 2x nails spark gap, homemade plug, homemade firestorm plug for use in the experiment and they seem to work but I wanted to find some info on more nonstandard types that could be used with better effects for this circuit

I have drawn a diagram(attached) of a plug type that I would like to test but have no real way of doing so at the moment, it is based on what I understand from a plasma gasification unit and my thought is that with the gap set up along the length we can have a longer spark and more surface area along the walls for the water to become effected into the spark and hopefully have more power to drive a piston... it is drawn twice, the bottom version I was trying to shorten the plug so there is less volume of air that could be compressed and cause less pressure

the arrow in the 2d picture shows the water spray nozzle, the idea is that it would spray in between firings down the tube but have a valve that prevents any pressure from travelling back up the pipe, also the pipe would have to be insulated to prevent the spark grounding back up the water supply

from what I can tell this would be a new kind of spark plug... I have tried searching but didn't find anything like it so it would have to be made from scratch

let me know if anything like this exists or if you think it has problems with anything thanks

Welcome AKA

I have been thinking along the same lines as you .

I made a quick  drawing  of  a similar idea .

I made the  anode black .
The  idea  is to keep  the anode mostly dry .
This  design would  spey the water  across the ramps  at the cathode . 
The arc should hit the water   near the center of the  chamber .

It is not intended for the arc to hit all the water .   
I think  a mix  of  plasma and  water drops  intering the  cylinder  would be ideal . 


I  almost went back and  made a  change.
I was thinking that    removing one   of the  blue  water  tubes would make  room for   a wire to the cathode .
If the wire was internal   then   the  plug shell  could be nuteral  .  ..................   
I  think  if we ground both  HV and LV  on the  engine  someone is eventually going to  make a mistake and end up  charcoal .

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc and others,

Heres a link to work Athal has been doing on coaxial spark plugs to produce ball lightning.
It occurs to me that maybe this is the pivotal point - Telsa did this and produced ball lightning.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/WaterFuel1978/files/ATHAL/

I dont have the time so maybe someone can pick this up.

FWIW - normal silicon sealant might be a good cheap insulator for making such a spark plug. I havent measured cured silicons resistance, but there must be stuff for electrical work we could use thats cheap.

Cheers,

Steve.

Thanks Steve for sharing this. Many thing we can try but time is always an issue

Luc