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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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michaelpaul

Quote from: Groundloop on September 13, 2008, 04:08:55 PM
@goldenequity,

I have made a cleaned up drawing of the circuit. I did not get the number of diodes used.
Also, in the car he used another string of diodes. Where to put them?
Can anybody that are better in understanding English than me take a look at the video and update
the drawing with the correct number of diodes and also where the second string
of diodes is attached?

Groundloop.


Thanks Groundloop, for such a good picture. This will help me to better my understanding of what we are trying to accomplish. As Luc said this will be a big plus to guys like me that have only a high school education in electronics. Thanks again.

goldenequity

@ Groundloop

I took the liberty of putting out the call to the energetic forum for an enhancement of your
diagram.  This came back quickly from lapperl (his FIRST forum post btw!)
Quote@Groundloop and everyone,

I am new to this forum but an avid watcher and would like to commend everyone on their great efforts.

I have edited Ground loops schematic with my representation of what Bill was saying in the video and the schematic he posted.

He stated that he has two banks of 60 1N5408 diodes in series, each at 3 amps 48kva. In parallel, he gets 6 amps. He stated that he feels he does not need two banks and he over engineered the circuit.

He calls the line coming out of the diode bank a "dipole wire". He runs 4 dipole wires to 4 banks of 7 diodes which he calls his "cross talk preventer". From each of these cross talk diode banks, he runs a wire to the top of each spark plug.

Like I stated previously, this is the way that I understand his circuit from watching his video several times and reviewing his schematic. If anyone feels that this is incorrect, please let me know. I am by no means an expert in this field and am open to advice and or criticism.

I am planning on replicating this circuit and will post my findings here.

I also took the liberty of emailing the author of the video and .pdf circuit with the below diagram for confirmation or correction.
I will keep you posted if/when I hear back.  :)


bxngoc

I  know little about car electronics so this Nexus circuit makes me confuss. What do coil switch and switch capacitor do? In my car there are two wires come to ignition coil, then center wire comes to distributor. How can I wire Nexus circuit to my car?
Another problem is inverter. My country uses 220 VAC electricity so I can't find 110 VAC interter. How to adapt this circuit to use with 220 VAC inverter?
Maybe some experts help me solve these problems?

Cheer to all.

Ngoc

Groundloop

@gotoluc,

>If it is at all possible from now on, can you please use this circuit illustration program to do all your circuits
>to help those with no electronic knowledge. It is important for the information to be easy to understand so
>many can share and replicate.

For simple circuit like this it is no problem to create a visual circuit diagram. But for more complex circuits I use
the Eagle electronic CAD program. The advantage of using the CAD program is that you also can design PCBs
and you get the factory files for production of PCBs.

>I have had a vision for a while of a single box most anyone could installed in a vehicle to create the plasma spark.

I think it will no problem designing such a unit. I will try out the circuits I already has designed and if success then I
will see if I can design a generic unit of the sort you want.

@michaelpaul,

Yes, it is important that everybody can replicate this circuit.

@goldenequity,

I think you got most of the diodes the wrong way around. If the first diode is negative out then all the other must be the same way?
In the pdf document all the diodes goes in series with the negative terminal pointing at the high voltage coil. I think we need some
input from the inventor here?

@bxngoc,

The ignition switch (can be a electronic one) is controlled from the motor. This switch closes when the motor needs a spark on a plug.
This happens because the ignition coil has plus voltage on one side and when the switch puts the coil to ground then we get a pulse
out of the high voltage ignition coil. The ignition coil itself is a transformer with two coils of enameled copper wire inside. Both coil is wound
onto a laminated iron core. Most ignition coils is filled with oil to keep them cool. One coil has few turns and the other many turns.
So the ignition coil transform the low 12 volt to a high (many kilo volt) voltage to the plug. The capacitor on the coil switch is standard
on all cars that uses this system. The capacitor will suppress noise from the switching and will also greatly extend the life of the
ignition switch.

I think it is no problem at all to use a small (100 - 300 Watt) inverter for 230 volt AC. If you take the transformer and capacitor out of a
micro oven wired for 230 volt then the parts will survive. The capacitor will then be half in value but double in volt rating. The transformer
primary (from the micro oven) will also be made to tolerate 230 volt AV. With double the AC voltage and half ( approx 6uF) the capacitor
value then you will get the same spark. If your coil has just two wires, the low voltage connection and the high voltage plug wire at the top
then both the coils is grounded through the coil metal. Then the low voltage wire is pulsed with 12 volt high and low from a electronic
unit in your car. This is not a problem. You can leave it as it is. You will only need to add the inverter and connect the diode string
to the top of you spark plugs. You will probably need one diode string to each plug to avoid "cross connection" between the plugs.
I have made a circuit drawing (attached) that explain this.

A note, what circuit to use depends on if the high voltage pulse out of the coil is negative or positive seen from the motor ground.
Also, we must check with the inventor on how many diode to use in each serial diode string.

Groundloop.

bwb

Below is a email to Bill and his response.He said he will work on a better presentation when gets back from vacation in a couple of weeks.I hope this will help.


On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 9:37 PM,  I  wrote:
> If you would please help with your nexus plasma circuit.
>
> First----- inverter is physically and electrically isolated from the vehicle
> ground.So does that mean you need a different power supply other than your
> cars battery?A extra battery to run the inverter??
>
> Download said-- 120vac from the inverter is directed through a mot primary
> to a half wave rectifier,but schematic shows that the hot side of inverter
> is to mot and the neutral side of inverter is to half wave rectifier and
> then to diodes?Is it also possible to get the type(schematic) of your half
> wave rectifier.I have found two types on the net,but would like to use
> yours.
>
> I'm like a lot of people.I'm a experience auto technician. I understand Ac
> and Dc and respect both when it comes to safety. But when it come to
> building electronics I'm a novice and need things explained in laymen
> turns.It just like the 60 diodes I have search the net and have found
> different views on how to connect them in series and in parallel with some
> using resistors?
>
> Does your download go into detail (pictures and so on for the laymen) I
> would be more than happy to purchase your download if it does.
>


Hi Bob,

I'm not selling anything differently than what you find in the PDF. I
wouldn't charge for information. The only thing you get plasma related
with the purchase is a download of the same video you can watch
online.

The inverter is physically and electrically isolated from vehicle
ground. I'm using the same battery that is used to run the engine. I
just didn't hook the chassis to ground and I didn't hook up the ground
little green ground wire on the inverter. The plus and minus are
hooked up, of course.

I don't get real technical at all, and you're right, the negative side
of the input has the rectifier on it. It's just five of the same
diodes all wired in series, way more than you will need. I think one
would do fine, but it wouldn't hurt to use two or three.

Now, it's not a rectifier unless it's in series with the input, and
that's why I said it positive goes to the rectifier, but it goes there
on the ground side. Just like in the schematic.

A rectifier is just a diode or group of diodes. One is shown on the
schematic just like it is just where it goes. More would be in
parallel with the one you see, and the only reason to add more would
be to carry more current, but we ain't carrying any current to speak
of so you don't need anything special.

Just wire everything like it shows in the schematic. I'll work on
making a better presentation when I get back from vacation in a few
weeks.

If you would, post this email to as many forums as you may belong to
or find so that I don't have to answer the same questions a million
and one times.

Have fun and Be Safe !!!!!

Bill