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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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Damianos

OK! my friends,
there is something else now.
I believe that, the "engine works with plasma" O.K.
What kind of water will we have to use?
Can we use "common" Water from the tap of our house,
or must we use (we have to buy) "clear" water without the salt of the type CaCO3 or CaO?
Can we use also salt water (with NaCl), from the see for example? Or will that be a big corrosion problem for our engine?
Will the engine has "after long use" any wear problems with the pistons?

Thank you again
(I always ask ... because I don't know...)

revizal

Quote from: Damianos on November 04, 2008, 03:33:26 AM
If you allow me to make some questions please,
(Because I did not make yet the whole experiment, but I will make it soon , I hope)
When we use 100W bulb , do we get the maximum effect of the plasma or
in case we use 150W bulb , do we expect more "lightning of the plasma"? (or not).
Have these bulbs the same resistance between them or their resistance decreases by increasing the power consumption (Watts) of the bulbs?
The bulbs in your experiment use 110V voltage or 220V voltage?

Thank you 

I used 220 Volt bulb to charge 47 uF 250 volt capacitor.
Higher power consumption (watt) bulb means lower resistant.  The lower resistant make a higher intensity to charge the capacitor.
Higher capacitant of the capacitor need higher wattage bulb, especially in high frequency (charging and discharging the capacitor) or high RPM. If you compare 100 watt bulb and 150 watt bulb, you will get higer energy pump rate in 150 watt (lower resistant).
Therefor, the point is on the velocity to charging and discharging certain capacitor in high frequency instead of the capacity of CDI's capacitor.
But we must concider the ability of spark plug to carry this energy load. The spark plug have maximum rating to prevent melting on its electrode.
On my experiment 22-47 uF is good enough to create high plasma effect without any risk on the spark plug.

Rev.

Damianos

Hi Rev ,
First of all I have to thank you for your answer.
You have really done a very good job.
You see, I come from Greece, and here in our houses we use only 220V AC.
So, as I see ,and after this work, the only thing we have to do then , is to find a good place to fit the bulb in the car, (perhaps away from high Temperature) and to give our attention to protect it from any "breaking" danger.

Thank you again
I don't know... I like to learn...

Damianos

Quote from: gmeast on November 03, 2008, 06:27:06 PM
Hi Alan,

In the original circuit, a resistor R1 limits the inrush current to CDI Cap C1 so as not to destroy voltage pump (oscillator / inverter) components .. enough resistance to adequately prevent damage but low enough to get a complete charge on C1.

Initially the goal was to just explode water. Find the original ,first, post in this thread by Gotoluc.  But first we want to see the effect of plasma with just fuels and ratios. Then we want to mix and explode both ... emulsion.  Also mix Hydroxy Gas in and ignite it, and more.  Final goal ... water as fuel.

Peace,

Greg






My friend Greg , I wish you a nice day.

First of all, I must give you my best congratulations for your work , and to thank you for your very polite way to share your ideas with other poeple.
In case you have enough time to answer, I would like to ask you the reason you use an "opposite direction" high intencity current unless a current with the same direction with the high voltage car coil circuit.
Well, I didn't make yet myself the experiment, and this is the reason I ask. (Perhaps you have already try it , ant it didn't work).
Anyway what do you think, does the idea worth to take AC (as a AC source) from the alternator of the car ? (before the 'heavy" diodes)
In your last plan , what is the AC voltage of your transformer (primary coil voltage and secondery coil voltage)
I would be very glad by reading your answer.

I don't know...  I like to learn...
Damianos

gmeast

Quote from: Damianos on November 04, 2008, 04:05:42 AM
A more question please to all friends...

What is the reason (the need) to use high dc voltage (110V AC gives 155,56V DC  , also 220V AC gives 311,13V DC), when we want high intensity current to work parallel (and upstream?) with high voltage of the car coil?
Is there "a best combination" between  DC voltage and DC intensity that we "give" with Mr Greg's circuit?
Because if is not, then why don't we use many parallel diodes ( to have more intensity) from our battery "straight on" the car coil?

I am waiting for your opinions and ideas...
thank you


Hi Damianos,

It has been shown in test by Gotoluc that for the same Joules of energy, a high voltage low current explodes water better than low voltage high current.  And even though an arc is somewhat self-modulating, high voltage and low current produces less plug damage and less plug heating than low voltage and high current.

My VexUs circuit does use multiple parallel HV diodes already.  I use four (4) per plug.

The exact circuit is running on my VW Bug right now.  I do not use a commercial inverter.  I built an inexpensive 2-transistor oscillator (inverter this page) and the transformer in that circuit is 115VAC x 6.0VAC - CT -  6.0VAC x 0.3A  run in reverse as a step up isolation transformer.  Decoupling via some sort of isolation transformer is important in the VexUs circuit as well as the relationship between R1 and C1 and ignition frequency.  I also use a voltage doubler producing 258VDC to the VexUs circuit.  Input voltage is 12VDC

Greg