URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gmeast]

Hi Greg,

I still love the way you are doing this project on your car.  It has me excited and I wish I was home so I could get started on my car too.  It is all I can do to sit still.

In thinking about your timing with water/steam injection I keep being reminded of how older cars used to run better on damp cool evenings.  I loved to race when the car was running that way.  It seemed that the better tuned the engine was the better the car run as compared to racing someone with a similar car.  Most times the race was determined by who had the newest points and plugs.  Now you have the best spark anyone can hope for.

We didn't change the timing then.  The cooler, damper air burned fine just like it was.

Now with this situation, what I would consider doing is blocking the engine rpm to about 2k and putting a vacuum gauge on manifold vac.  Then play the dist. back and forth to get the maximum vac on the gauge.  I think we used to expect about 27in on the gauge.  What I usually did then was clamp the dist there and go for a drive and try all kinds of throttle positions to see if it would "ping".  If it did, I would back the timing back down about 1/2 inch at a time till the ping was gone.  You prolly already know that setting an engine with a timing light doesn't always produce the best advance setting.  At one time I worked at a John Deere dealership and we had to put every overhauled engine on a dyno,   After we run one in for an hour we would pull it back into the shop and re-torque the head and readjust the valves.  Then it went back on the dyno and that time when we got it to normal operating temp.  We would play with the dist till we got the highest reading on the dyno.  If you set your timing as I suggested, it may behave differently when you have it on the road as as engine will change when the load is put on it.  After all tractors didn't have vac advance to come into play when the load changed.


As for the water, I would be dripping it in as I was trying it with the vacuum gauge.

Of course, I am thinking in old school and this is a brand new field of expertise.  But if you set the timing that way, you would have a good base line to work from.

I would also at the same time be adjusting the water to see how much I could get it to keep running on without misfiring.

Just my thoughts, hope this helps.

Good luck and God speed,
Rog 

Hi Rog,

There's nothing 'old school' about it !  The nature of a flame front, the energy available in a quant of gasoline, the horrible thermal losses in engine design. etc ... those things haven't changed.  I'm now of the opinion that fuel injection is a real evil.  Any combustion engineer will tell you that as long as there is a droplet of any fuel, it will just smolder away.  That's not vaporization.  We may be seeing a return to more normal aspiration arrangements. 

I'm going to use your "... blocking the engine at 2K ..." and look for the maximum vac. and go from there.  Sounds good to me.  I'm guilty of setting the timing by 'feel'.

Thanks,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc!!

This guy uses a T.V. flyback transformer to make plasma.
Since you mentioned something about flyback transformers, I found something and poted it.

Nothing special

Okay! thanks for the reply djzissis

I have something else in mind and I will share if I have any results.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I was away from home for the past 3 1/2 weeks but I'm now home (Ottawa, Canada) after a long 2 day (30 hours) drive from Florida.

I'm glad to see the topic is alive and well thanks to Greg's and everyone's input.

Thank you for all your contributions

Luc

[gotoluc]

SS tube connected to audio amplifier


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nRzCX9oVqQ4&fmt=18


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R7i3pDPz2YU&fmt=18

Hi dreamyear,

this sounds like a great idea ... was the coil and core we see with the speaker wire warped around it used?  or is i strait from the amp output?

If you start a topic please post the link here as many maybe interested.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[gmeast]

Hi everyone,

I built and installed a water system today.  It is very simple and .............................................keeps the inlet air warm - guaranteeing good mixing between the air, gas vapor and steam water vapor.

I did some highway ............................................................ I checked the plasma system to make sure all was fine with that too.

... For the record my odometer reading is 35987.  I have no idea how many times it has actually flipped.

Kinda' looks like my Bug is on an I V Drip ... hope it survives !

I have linked ...........................................
Peace,

Greg

Hi everyone,

I have to correct the record.  I looked at my PDA and odometer start milage was "35687" not "35987"  'cause I'm now approaching my first 100 miles of test driving at 35775.  Well, there ya go, can't read my own PDA.

Happy Thanksgiving to all Americans,

Greg