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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: chrisC on June 30, 2008, 11:04:45 PM

Well said Ossie! I read with great interest what Luc had stumbled upon and good people like yourself has been able to replicate and hopefully get us all to the point where the principles are well understood and easy to adapt to any existing gasoline engine. That would be a holy grail for ridding ourselves of the Opec oil greed!

Keep it up.

cheers
chrisC
Hi chrisC, thanks for reading the topic and posting your positive comment.

Luc

geovel56

Bumfuzzled and the rest of the group,

I really don't think an in-line fuse or circuit breaker will protect the inverter because they do not blow fast enough before the damage is done.  Ossie, input on this???

Aside from rectifying the AC from the inverter to DC, Ossie has 16 - 1N5404 diodes in series.  They are 400V 3 Amp diodes and in series in addition to the 10 (shown in the schematic), not 8 as the schematic says of 1N4007 diodes rated at 1000 volts 1 amp.   There is your protection if the circuit is wired properly.

Is this overkill on the diodes?  Maybe, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.  It also seems to me that 2 to 2.5 amps and 12 V, as shown on Ossie's meters, this system is only drawing 24 to 30 watts to create the plasma arc.  30 watts is nothing, so this circuit is extremely efficient and incredibly simple.  The 300 Watt inverter is actually 10 times the required demand of this simple circuit. 

One thing I did notice was the capacitor is 250 volts which is cutting it a bit close to the 240 volts output of the inverter, but I am by no means an electrical circuit designer... actually far from it... Just an observation though.  In the US, our mains and off the shelf inverters are 120 VAC, so I am still using the 250V capacitor and all seems great!

Also, we don't know what the circuit will draw once it is introduced to a cylinder with compressed water vapor.  Right now, the circuit is only firing in an open air environment.  Will the circuit draw more than it is currently (pardon the pun)?  Maybe, maybe not, but I commend Ossie for taking that into consideration and perhaps the number of diodes isn't overkill.  Either way, better safe than sorry!

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Geo

Dread

Hi Luc,

How is it going? Any new results from the suggested experiments? I am approaching an investor with this ignition principle to develop a small turbine pulse generator. 

Rgds.

aether22

Quote from: gotoluc on June 27, 2008, 11:40:44 AM
Hi robbie47, thanks for looking and adding your input. You are very correct about the humidity level. The setup of the video was done in a garage and I had the garage door was open, outside was just starting to rain which became a major rain storm just after the video was done, there was a lightning hit less than a 100 feet away  :o, the timing of it all felt so perfect, like a confirmation from Mother Nature. So at the time I was doing the video I did not realize that all that moisture in the air was also helping the spark since you can see I did not need to add water at every spark to make it work.

Luc



Hmmm, I just noticed this thread, it has grown fast.
First point would be that it is very plausible you attracted the lightening strike.

Maybe these questions have been answered in one of the subsequent pages and if so sorry but...
Can you just use 240v mains rather than a 240v inverter?
If so then I can easily replicate this, if not then I probably won't as getting the inverter is sure to be a headache and I know you found in a similar experiment that even the brand/model of inverter mattered!

Also what is with the first image in the thread with the inverter and mains power?  I can't find any text/video to tell me what that one does. (the image below it though seems neatly covered in the video)

If the effect is tied to a given model of inverter then it seems that this is all kinda pointless, you need to be buying a bunch of them and seeing what makes them tick, and make a simplified inverter or circuit that creates the aetheric (or whatever you want to call it) electrical current.

BTW aren't you 110-120v system in Canada? How are you getting 240v inverters?
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes

aether22

I have pretty much only read the 1st and last page still.

This thread seems a tad unfocused, there are 2 (or maybe 3) important discoveries Luc seems to have made here.

The most obvious is that he has managed to explode water (at least in part due to burning it seemingly after splitting it) with a pulse from a rather modest capacitor that would contain very limited energy.

However possibly the most important is that he has shown that charging a cap with full wave rectified 240v from a specific transformer is different to 240v full wave rectified from a different inverter (I believe) or from mains.

That is the most solid proof I have seen to date that a aetherized/cold current (or whatever names you want to give it) can charge a capacitor and keep it's aetheric quality.

This discovery could just as well be attacked not from the 'burning hydrogen/exploding water' point of view but from an electroaetheric point of view where we see how to create the kind of current that works works in this device and what other differing properties it may have, chances are this is only one of it's special talents.

One test I would very much like to see Luc do is to check the voltage of his charged cap is to verify that the difference isn't that this specific inverter is charging the cap a little higher than the other things he has tried.

Maybe I would look into getting this model of inverter if he can satisfy that curiosity, so how much does one of these cost then???   Any recommended sources? (I'm in NZ btw)
?To forgive is to set a prisoner free and then discover that the prisoner was you.?  Lewis Smedes