URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[send_to_nice]

I have pretty much only read the 1st and last page still.

This thread seems a tad unfocused, there are 2 (or maybe 3) important discoveries Luc seems to have made here.

This is something I've been thinking, but being very much a new kid on the block here I haven't said much about it. Something I've been wondering is, at what point does an idea raised through a thread on here need to become a 'project'? As I said, I'm a newcomer to this site so am not sure whether threads ike this come and go all the time. Certainly to me it feels as though there is a huge amount of anticipation around this idea and how feasible it is. Regulars here are pretty clued up and I've certainly noticed a lot of threads where people pick up on fake ideas or inefficient ones very soon. This thread doesn't seem to have aroused such suspicion, so from that can we assume that this is the real deal? I don't know the answer to that, but I'm hoping some of the regulars do.

If it is, I'd suggest we seriously think about putting some more structure into this to make sure we are aiming at a goal and not just playing around with a whole lot of ideas and frying electronics in the process. Luc has shown what can be achieved with a simple circuit and low power, the next step (I believe) is showing that there is a pressure wave generated that could be used to displace a piston. If we can show that, then the next step is probably to try it on a real engine.

What do people think?

[aether22]

send2, I agree.

While I am personally interested in how this circuit may be generating the kind of conditions for a 'radiant effect', and that is a very important direction, the other question is if he has anything other that a fun pop.

You need quite a bit of power to push down a piston, hundreds of pounds of pressure is developed to push down a piston.
In fact if anyone tells you that implosion can power an engine you know they are either wrong or are not meaning the creation of a partial vacuum as atmospheric pressure is only 16PSI and that's no where near enough to run an engine. (which is not to say that a non-atmospheric implosive force may not be possible)

So anyone who has the effect needs to see if it can create some real pressure, and compare it to gas explosion.

And if expensive inverters are not needed then can Luc please put a cheaper plan in the first post of the thread, I have lots of gear but no inverters.

[send_to_nice]

It shouldn't be hard to prove/disprove the viability of this. All that is needed is some vessel we can attach over the spark plug that will allow us to add the necessary moisture. Then, we make it spark and watch the pressure destroy the vessel. I was initially thinking of a balloon, but this won't allow the water mist to be sprayed. Assuming it did, we shouldn't have any trouble bursting a balloon if the pressure is as high as some are suggesting it is. How about it?

[hartiberlin]

Youtube User crob227
has simular effect now.
Have alook at this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKpEXXvIZZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWglLC_UEwc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRX89SDHEiM

By the way, great accent and many real good bangs ! 

Well at 900 Volts DC be very cautious, as, when you touch
this cap with wet fingers you surely will be dead...!

[Koen1]

Probably.
But if you touch the cap with wet fingers,
isn't that sort of natural selection at work?
jk

Anyway:
Go Luc! Go Ossie! W00T!

but seriously, this is starting to get really exciting.
I'm actually considering putting my cell experiments on hold for this...
... and digging up that old hydrogen kit motor I had so I can try
it with a running motor... now where did I put that thing?

May I suggest compiling a sort of documentation file or folder in which
Luc and Ossie gather the most usefull and clear posts, explanations,
and circuit drawings, in order to facilitate bringing people up to speed?
The thread is growing so fast that peope only jumping in now first have to
spend 2 days reading the earlier posts before they get to this point.

I posted some stuff myself that turned out to be complete crap just ten
minutes later because I had missed a piece of the developments in the thread.
Apologies for polluting your nice thread Luc.

Oh, and if s1r9a9m9 has his V8 conversion plans online somewhere
that might be interesting