URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

@Luc: All hail the Moderator!

but seriously, what is the direction you'd like this to go, Luc?
Do you want to move toward using this very cool effect in an actual engine,
like s1r9a9m9 (claims he) has done?
Or are you more interested in studying the effect itself?

Sort of like that great description Ossie gave of the test circuit.

So, what does everyone think?

Hi Koen1, The direction I would like this to go is to use this effect to make a combustion engine work.

I'm off to work for the day.

Luc

[resonanceman]

@Nightlife and Starcruiser and All

There is an engine that seems most suited for experimental purposes.  It is the 4 banger in the mid 80's Nissan Hardbody line of pickups.  It has a carb and dual ignition like an aircraft engine with two spark plugs per cylinder.  One plug fires and soon after the other plug fires. "energize and then fire".  It has two ignition coils to do the task.  It has a distributor with two coil inputs and 8 out.  Does not have the complicated computer controls that fuel injection engines have.

All kinds of flexibility are possible with this engine:
Easy to advance or retard timing, mess with the carb, mess with the two spark plugs, or make a special water injector and use one on the spark plug holes.

I think the Nissan Maxima around this time had a passenger car version.  It had a timing belt, the pickup used a chain.  Get the truck, more room around the engine.

Tishatang

Thanks  Tishatang

2 sets of plugs ?

It  does sound  almost ideal ........only way  it could be better is  if it had  dual  carbs .

gary

[hydrocontrol]

Some points to consider before jumping on a car conversion.
1. If you convert a car how will you be able to run the car in the winter when the outside temperature freezes ? Auxiliary heater perhaps but that starts adding more elements to conversion.
2. What will water combustion do to a car exhaust system or to the engine over a period of time ?
3. If the conversion fails you have a large object to get rid or to explain to the wife why you have a new lawn decoration. 
4. Cars can range from simple to complex so having a base car engine for everyone to use would be harder to achieve. 
5. EPA regulations and red tape in US states that have emissions checks for cars. 

Some points on a small electric start engine.
1. If it does not work out you are only out a couple of hundred bucks instead of a couple of thousand.
2. No real EPA regulations to deal with.
3. More easy to dispose of engine if fails.
4. Exhaust systems are cheap to replace.
5. You may even be able to run indoors so water freezing is not as much a concern or at least it would be more easy to vent the exhaust.

I agree that ultimately a form of transportation would be the most desirable to get running on water but it maybe the most complex for the first attempt. A generator to run your house or recharge a electrically converted car maybe easier and just as useful for the first go around.

[resonanceman]

so if someone has or can give a clear step-by-step overview of how
to alter the engine and probably most importantly the circuitry involved and
how to hook that to conventional controls, that would certainly help a lot.

Koen

That is  exactly what  we are working on here .

gary

[resonanceman]

I hav been flying R/C aircraft 52 years and I beg ta differ............In fact I am modifying an old FOX 78 to run using this process................Will take time, I'm a slow builder/modifier.

Ben

Ben

I like  your  spirit   



It has been  many years  sense  I have   looked  at a model engine .   
Can you  pull  the  heating  element

  part of the  glow plug out and  replace it with a  copper wire  ?

Other than  the lube  issue  my  big concern  is the  compression  ratio .
unless  you   add an ignition  system  .you  will have to rely on   the  compression  ratio to  fire  it off .

I have no idea what   that compression ratio would be .   

Is it  possible to   change  the   piston  rod or  something to get  different  compression ratios ?




I have no idea  what would  be the  best thing to use for  creating your arc .

gary