URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[qiman]

Temp. drop in an ICE would need to be determined.  Certainly could be cooler due to lack of explosive heat, but friction still will create heat along the cylinder walls, and any bearing surface.  So, IMO, no cold running ICE. 

Livingwaters08

Yes, friction would still play a part to generate heat even if no explosive heat. I would use vacclaisocryptene additive to reduce friction to the lowest possible. It was developed for the oil/gas refinery industry by the oil/gas refinery industry to prevent maintenance on their own equipment. If anyone knows what the best would be, it is them. And YES, I am a dealer. www.vacclaisocryptene.com because I believe in it from my own results.

[qiman]

@quiman
Congratulations, You are one of very few people to get this far
It's interesting that this effect(electrostatic cooling) is almost completely absent in the scientific literature but has been around for a very long time. The most noteable person to utilize this effect was Victor Schauberger some 80 years ago, many people equate Schauberger with water and the vortex but this was only a small part of his work. Victor stated he could produce 2 million volts potential from a single drop of water using capilliary tubes and a small suction source! and the resultant "cold expansion" could produce a large temperature drop. In the right context this cold expansion could also produce a perfect vacuum to power his devices . In our world we equate heat with expansion and cold with contraction but this seems to be a bit of an illusion as heat and cold are not "something" they are a condition of "something". If only heat expands and only cold contracts then why is our cold upper atmosphere at a low pressure? It should be very dense if it has supposedly contracted. We could also say radiating energy is expansive relative to the source and contractive relative to its target. In any case if heat is not produced I think it is safe to assume the forces involved are electrostatic in nature, as everything is.

You're exactly right. Ice cubes are cold and expand as they get colder. Water is the most dense at 4C, etc... and other anomalous phenomena attributed to water. I'm aware of electrostatic cooling but there may be something else at play. I'll "expand" on that later. LOL

[qiman]

@quiman & All

Interesting indeed as I have worked with electrostatic cooling for some 5 years now, it is still a thrill to see how many different ways it can be invoked.

For a starter for those that are not familiar with the effect you could start at http://www.rexresearch.com/blomgren/blomgren.htm and a google in the subject will bring up many interesting papers, it seems welding is familiar with the effect. I am also aware that NASA has and is doing research in this area.

Now a simple question, the cooling in the video appears to go down at a near constant rate, but once the arc is stopped it at once returns to the 77' mark, I'm not understanding why we wuld not see a ramp back up to the 77', if surfaces are cooled how do they at once obtain instant ambient temperature?

Thanks, forever interesting.....

Good question. The only thing that can be obtained from this test is that the before and after temp, regardless of any possible goofy phenomena with the pulsing and thermometer is that there is no net gain in temp no matter how long I run it. That vid was only a few short seconds but even running it longer...and I stop it and measure temp, there is no gain. Others have commented on how the plug feels cool as well and didn't get hot. It is most interesting.

[qiman]

@qiman
There are things happening in the spark which we don't fully understand. I was thinking, maybe the ir light from the ir temperature meter is being absorbed or manipulated or whatever, therefore it isn't showing the correct temperature. Maybe a low-tech temp-meter should be used, just to be sure it is really dropping.
Just a thought.

(I see tinu asked the same)

Hi, in my own forum, I think I suggested the same. Anyone could get a regular mercury thermometer for taking temperatures. Tape the bulb tightly to the threads or J electrode of the plug, super glue whatever and just let the thing run, then see if the temp increases. That would be a great analog test that rules out any possibility of interference. Doesn't change the fact that the temp with the IR digital thermometer shows before and after (without spark running) temp is the same and doesn't increase.

[whopper1967]

Hello all,let me ask you this.In capacitors circuit and I am pretty sure xboxs,the ignition coil must generate +ve hv for them to work,so,if like someone said earlier,most modern ignitions generate negative,is there any way to change that to positive?thanks all.