URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[Dazzasta]

Hi all,

This is my first post, i've been following this forum since christmas, and got my '81 landcruiser running on hydrogen, but until now didn't feel i had anything to offer.
This may sound really basic although i am;;;;;;; As i uderstand the inverter is used to supply amps with the coil discharge accross the spark gap to creat the plasma arc; but when using 110v or 240v you are supplimenting volts for amps, has anyone tried getting rid of the transformer and rectifiers and connecting straight to 12v or 24v along with coil discharge.
Although this may be a delicate act of the right amount of volts, the right amount of amps, the right amount of water and the right engine to get this thing going, it's well worth the effort.

hope i've been some help.
Keep up the good work

[tinu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cInPBfJ2nT0
7 degree temp drop

This piece of info is crucial! Many, many thanks and please accept me bothering you with several more questions. I?m currently working on deciphering the theory behind the main subject and any piece of experimental evidences will keep me on track.

1. A small white light is seen on the spark plug at all times. Is it the spot of the laser gun (and the spot where you take temperature readings)? If not, does the light mean something or it is just an artifact of the camera / reflection of the main light in the room? Also, if not, where does the IR gun take readings more exactly?

2. Temperature drop is from 77F (25C) to 70F (21.1C) in about 4s then the sparks are interrupted. (I don?t know if this is purposely or accidental). Can you please re-make the experiment for a longer discharge time (10-15s) and then also by adding a mist of water for comparison?

3. Please confirm that the IR thermometer is TE 261, having an accuracy of +/-2% (4F/2C), automatic compensation for temperature deviations from ambient temperature, sample rate 1s; if different, please let me know the specifications/model.

4. As far as I know, IR thermometers are based on emissivity values and consequently they may be severely affected because of that. Do you think that light from the discharge may severely confuse the thermometer thus affect the readings? If so, is it possible to place a thin&black object in between the spark and IR sensor and to repeat the measurements? Thin ? for small thermal inertia; black for blocking the light; surface properties and emissivity value may be adjusted through a different calibration experiment.

Again, I thank you very much in advance and please apologize for any trouble. Imho, the results of your experiments may be fundamental for advancing into the water-engine issue.

Best regards,
Tinu

[gotoluc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cInPBfJ2nT0
7 degree temp drop

Thank you Aaron for doing once again an important test and great video demonstration to show there is something quite interesting going on here.

Luc

[allcanadian]

@quiman
Congratulations, You are one of very few people to get this far
It's interesting that this effect(electrostatic cooling) is almost completely absent in the scientific literature but has been around for a very long time. The most noteable person to utilize this effect was Victor Schauberger some 80 years ago, many people equate Schauberger with water and the vortex but this was only a small part of his work. Victor stated he could produce 2 million volts potential from a single drop of water using capilliary tubes and a small suction source! and the resultant "cold expansion" could produce a large temperature drop. In the right context this cold expansion could also produce a perfect vacuum to power his devices . In our world we equate heat with expansion and cold with contraction but this seems to be a bit of an illusion as heat and cold are not "something" they are a condition of "something". If only heat expands and only cold contracts then why is our cold upper atmosphere at a low pressure? It should be very dense if it has supposedly contracted. We could also say radiating energy is expansive relative to the source and contractive relative to its target. In any case if heat is not produced I think it is safe to assume the forces involved are electrostatic in nature, as everthing is.

[DrStiffler]

@quiman & All

Interesting indeed as I have worked with electrostatic cooling for some 5 years now, it is still a thrill to see how many different ways it can be invoked.

For a starter for those that are not familiar with the effect you could start at http://www.rexresearch.com/blomgren/blomgren.htm and a google in the subject will bring up many interesting papers, it seems welding is familiar with the effect. I am also aware that NASA has and is doing research in this area.

Now a simple question, the cooling in the video appears to go down at a near constant rate, but once the arc is stopped it at once returns to the 77' mark, I'm not understanding why we wuld not see a ramp back up to the 77', if surfaces are cooled how do they at once obtain instant ambient temperature?

Thanks, forever interesting.....