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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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maxvicd

Hello,

that is why in case of use on an ICE this one is not grounded but is at the low voltage while the anode of the sparkplug is at the high voltage if i am right, like Tesla did to create a ball lightning.

Max ;).

radicalzero

I knew that I had seen this concept before, check out this link especially the paragraph on electrohydraulic forming.

archive.metalformingmagazine.com/1997/01/7mfjan5.htm

This is basically what we are trying to do only with a piston.

callanan

Quote from: gotoluc on July 19, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
Hi Ossie,

I am having a hard time wording this but I'll give it a try, so please don't be upset if something I write makes you feel bad since that is not my intention here. As you know, I have praised and valued all the work you have done and you have added so much great research to this topic.

Using electrolyte in the water was a direction I was purposely avoiding (not wanting to do).  Maybe you did not see the first page post where someone posted this Cold Fusion Plasma 9 Youtube video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bs-Uk511S_I  which I deleted since I found it to be off topic. Now once again someone has posted it on this page.  I am not impressed by this video demonstration because of the use of electrolyte in the water. I seem to find this to be a form of brute force electrolysis.

I can be wrong and you maybe on the right track and this is what would be needed to make a combustion engine work on water but I am hoping not. How can we expect a normal ICE to last with salt going though it? isn't it going to rust like 30 times faster than just water? It may work in the Lexan engine that I'm presently building but I think I would be testing this last.

Maybe there is something I'm missing or not understanding :-\

Luc



Hi Luc,

My apologies for posting the latest results of my research which are in a direction that you do not wish this thread to go. After all, it is your thread. Please forgive my interpretation and the impression I got from your first post. The impression I got was that the priority of this thread was to replicate an engine running on water, as that shown in the videos of s1r9a9m9, using a modified ignition circuit as he did. But it seems now that your priority for this thread is to look for a source and the development of anomalous energy and non-classical operation of the initial circuit you posted in your belief that this is what may be allowing the engine in s1r9a9m's videos to run on water.

The results of my research and experiments on this topic to date indicate that the initial circuit that you posted causes a cool fog explosion of water as that described in the Graneau paper. As further described in the Graneau paper, the explosion may yield more energy output than what was required electrically to cause it. The expermental results shown indicated that in 5 out of 8 tests, the output energy exceeded the input energy to the factor of 100-160% of the input energy. My observations confirm this degree of energy conversion in my own experiments but also confirm that this small amount of energy increase CANNOT account for the energy being displayed in the firing of the engine in s1r9a9m9's videos. It is because of this understanding and the results of my research that I believe that your simple circuit cannot be used or developed as you have presented to be able to allow an engine to run on pure water.

Because it is my priority to follow the results of my research in an effort to be able to demonstrate if it is possible to run an engine on water as demonstrated by s1r9a9m9 or not, it seems that the direction of my work no longer fits into the focus of this thread as you have described. So I will do the appropriate thing, and as courtesy to you, no longer post the results of my work in this thread as it is progressing in a different direction than where you wish this thread to go. But I wish you and all on this thread well in your endevours.

Regards,

Ossie


xbox hacker

@callanan:

Just start your own thread...
My callanan Replication!!
or
URGENT! callanan WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
or
Alternative plasma spark ideas and discussion!!

;D ;D

I will admit...useing salt water in an engine...NOT a good idea  ;)

callanan

Quote from: xbox hacker on July 19, 2008, 06:31:43 PM
@callanan:

Just start your own thread...
My callanan Replication!!
or
URGENT! callanan WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
or
Alternative plasma spark ideas and discussion!!

;D ;D

I will admit...useing salt water in an engine...NOT a good idea  ;)

Hi xboxhacker,

It seems that people cannot see the wood for the trees in my latest posted discovery. People are seeing what I did and are not reading what I am saying. It is not specifically about the "salt" I put in the water but it is about why I did it and what it proves. I am simply adding an electrolyte to the water itself to increase it's conductivity. There are many different ways and additives that you can use to do this but it is "why I am doing it" and not "how I am doing it" that is important. In this direction of research, regarding increasing the conductivity of the water, it does not mean that we MUST use a very corrosive water based liquid in our engines. It is just pointing to the theory of why it may work and how water can be used. But also, considering the abundance of seawater on the planet, it would be a technological revolution indeed if an engine could be designed with non-corrosive components such that it could solely be powered by seawater. Wouldn't that in itself be an end to our dependance on oil if this was possible.

Regards,

Ossie