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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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pese

Quote from: retrod on July 02, 2008, 09:41:51 AM
@all, I found this link to a patent for a "Plasma Arc Ignition System" designed in 1993. It describes the concept of a combined high voltage, high current system. Although this was designed for gasoline there are some parallels to the work being done here. The diagrams even suggest some spark plug designs that may work best with a plasma arc. I wonder if it's inventor ever thought to try the system with water?

Click on 'Documents' to view the 45 page pdf

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=CA1992000510&DISPLAY=DOCS

RD

Here dozend patents more ...
http://www.google.de/patents?q=PLASMA-ARC+IGNITION+SYSTEM&btnG=Search+Patents

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QuoteFrom: "fredrikh99" <fredrikhansson@telia.com>Add sender to Contacts To: WaterFuel1978@yahoogroups.comAlright, I just made a short video showing my latest installement. I
ran it on 200 Volt and it takes 7 amps on idle. When run it goes down
to 5-6 amps.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=j0jXxPTvuGE

/Fredrik


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jXxPTvuGE

Haliburton

Hi guys, I started a new Energy Forum which is featuring gotoluc's findings that are here also. gotoluc has agreed to post his information here also. Please have a look here:  http://energyupdater.com/  and tell me what you think

Please keep it clean and pro.

thanx guys

There still is room for a few more projects in the public library.

if you find any bugs let me know

livingwaters08

Quote from: greendoor on July 02, 2008, 06:54:36 AM
I think there are some big questions and big assumptions here.  Have we have ruled out the dissassociation of water into H & O?  Is it agreed that this is a lower temperature effect, being the liberating of latent heat between the liquid & vapour phases of water? 

We are assuming this behaves remotely like conventional petrol or gas combusion engines.  Will a higher compression ratio help or hinder? 

I'm guessing this effect is the working principle of lightening & thunder.  Lightening is known to be plasma discharge.  AFAIK, lightening doesn't need compressed air to work.  In weather terms, aren't storms the result of a low pressure region?  Maybe very low compression engines will be better than high compression?


greendoor,  this may be the case here.  If ,and only if, s1r9a9m9 is telling  us the truth about his 1978 El-Camino running on just water(he did say that the engine was stock issue, unchanged)  then we can deduce that this could be  true since in 1978 GM had low compression engines in their vehicles as a result of EPA mandates dating to 1971 when the compression ratios were lowered significantly to comply with stricter emission controls.  Compressiom ratios in a typical V/8  before 1971 were around 10 to 1.  In 1971 onward to 1978, compression ratios went down to 8.2 to 1.  These were considered low compression engines.  My parents owned a 1975 Oldsmobile Toronado and I remember distinctly my father complaining of less power....you see the previous car was a 1970 Olds 98 with 10 to 1 compression ratio and 365 horse power 500 + pounds of torque!  Just some facts to put this in perspective.

Livingwaters08

Less wasted power?  Storm clouds tend to be very tall, dense clouds.  I've tended to assume that lightening happens when there is sufficient water "shorting out" the potential difference in the atmosphere. 

Is liquid water better than a mist?

A small percentage of soluble oil might be beneficial mainly to stop rusting being a show stopper.  In time, I expect new engine designs will optimise this process.  Maybe if this is fairly low temp, we could use nylon piston rings or other plastic parts.

Maybe a steam engine type design is the way forward ...

Only experiments will find this out.