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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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bw

I haven't read every post yet but on page 16 some folks were having trouble getting engines to run without kick back on the piston.  Try to find a way to retard the engine spark timing several degrees.  The kickback is from pre-detonation.  Advance the engine timing so the spark occurs well after the piston reaches top dead center and begins to travel downward.  Pre=detonation occurs when the spark occurs too far before t.d.c.   On older engines timing is adjusted by loosening the distributor and turning one direction or the other to advance or retard while watching the mark with a timing light.  I have no idea how to adjust newer engines timing setting.  Hydrogen burns differently than gasoline and will fire much faster so the engine timing should be adjusted to avoid damage. 

allcanadian

@Gotoluc
QuoteHi allcanadian, thank you for answering my call
Oh crap, you know I don't perform well under stress :D

@NerzhDishual
QuoteHave you also ever try to 'redraw' some of his patent figures in a
more convenient/logical/QiMan way?
Yes, I have below and in an earlier post the cap charger is the same patent 568177 minus the Pri/Sec with a diode. ;D

If I could make a few comments I would say, I mean no offence but all this talk of engines and sparkplugs seems very premature, kind of like deciding how to cook your chicken before you have an egg. If an efficient means to produce a large scale plasma discharge is not produced we have nothing. The capacitor charging circuit in my last post is the easiest way I know of to replace the inverter/rectifier section of Gotoluc's circuit. This is a Tesla circuit yes, but this does not have to turn into another tesla thread, we have a goal to pursue. The next phase I am working on is the plasma process itself which I have already started .The question I had to ask first is what is happening here? this is not a standard HV arc as Gotoluc and Qiman have shown in there videos, it is not produced by the rectified inverter current as Qiman has shown. A known amount of energy in a capacitor has completely changed the qualities of its discharge from anything we know . These qualities have also changed the extent of interaction with matter (water vapor), I think a common goal would be to determine the exact "cause" of why the qualities of the plasma discharge have changed and what circuit properties have instigated this change. This would seem to be the most logical course of action if one is to improve both the efficiency and magnitude of the effect. In any case I will be working in that direction in the next few weeks and post the results.
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jymboche

Hello all,
Been on the forums for a while, and finally thought i would register to post  :)
Anyway, There is a Japanese Van on youtube that runs on water http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1OWDcWoXHs
It runs by injecting hydrogen into the cylinder which ignites (not enough to power the piston alone) and then immediately injects water vapor (i think) which then expands from the heat created by the hydrogen explosion giving it that extra umph to drive the piston. There is a translated version which i think someone posted on here earlier. Would it not be feasible to use this enhanced sparkplug/circuit to do that? Just an idea....
sorry if i come off as an idiot.

nightlife

So far I understand that a HV spark from the coil is seeking the source of the low voltage when present and when it hits the diodes that are placed between, it is slammed back intensifying the voltage as it seeks the closest ground.

If I am right with what I have understood, then why cant we just install diodes between a positive lead from the battery and the spark plug and then slip the plug wire on over it?

callanan

Quote from: allcanadian on July 08, 2008, 12:10:38 AM
@Gotoluc
Oh crap, you know I don't perform well under stress :D

@NerzhDishualYes, I have below and in an earlier post the cap charger is the same patent 568177 minus the Pri/Sec with a diode. ;D

If I could make a few comments I would say, I mean no offence but all this talk of engines and sparkplugs seems very premature, kind of like deciding how to cook your chicken before you have an egg. If an efficient means to produce a large scale plasma discharge is not produced we have nothing. The capacitor charging circuit in my last post is the easiest way I know of to replace the inverter/rectifier section of Gotoluc's circuit. This is a Tesla circuit yes, but this does not have to turn into another tesla thread, we have a goal to pursue. The next phase I am working on is the plasma process itself which I have already started .The question I had to ask first is what is happening here? this is not a standard HV arc as Gotoluc and Qiman have shown in there videos, it is not produced by the rectified inverter current as Qiman has shown. A known amount of energy in a capacitor has completely changed the qualities of its discharge from anything we know . These qualities have also changed the extent of interaction with matter (water vapor), I think a common goal would be to determine the exact "cause" of why the qualities of the plasma discharge have changed and what circuit properties have instigated this change. This would seem to be the most logical course of action if one is to improve both the efficiency and magnitude of the effect. In any case I will be working in that direction in the next few weeks and post the results.

Hi allcanadian,

If you are refering to how might a plasma discharge effect and explode the water such that it may release more energy then what was put into it. Please see this post:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5024.msg109420.html#msg109420

Regards,

Ossie