URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I want to give you all an update on my engine test . I spent all day yesterday working on the waste spark circuit idea I had using a latching relay as a spark skip circuit.  I originally thought the latching relay would work with a single pulse to flip (latch) the relay from side to side, well it does!  but the polarity of the switch needs to reverse back and forth also. That is the problem since I'm using a single switch to activate it. All my attempts to resolve this have lead to the relay to loop and not just a single flip. So that idea looks like it's not going to work.

About 2 weeks ago my friend Rick suggested a 2:1 timing belt and pulley arrangement to which I really liked the idea but when I found out the cost (about $100.) to get the parts locally I dropped that ideal until I have a proven system.

Anyways, I think I can do a basic test without the waste spark circuit as long as I don't pass TDC since the intake valve starts to opens just a hair after TDC . 

I built a really nice sliding timing position switch that I can move on the fly from about 30 degrees BTDC to 5 degrees ATDC.

Unfortunately today is raining and showing no signs of clearing and Sunday I have something happening all day, so it looks now like it's going to be Monday 

Stay tuned!

Luc

[gotoluc]

@luc:
Hi Luc,
Let me answer instead of Dread.
I went for Cap70 circuit because had to use over 65 diodes (every 1000v ) in order to prevent the HV spark going to the big capacitor. I this is thing that I found from from several days of tries/mistakes, it was really hard.
That's why tried the cap70 circuit and it started to work at once - so fast that I didn't believed it. Of course there is disadvantiges of the cap70 and it is important one. The traf used to get HV spark transformed to the first spark plug delivers very little of the HV spark because of the capacitors and transformers. That's you get something like 500pF energy @ 6000v which is enough for getting the effect same like with the diodes but not enough for getting effect in engine under compression (at TDS there is 8x pressure than at the room) and turbulention(from fuel/air incoming). However you can avoid also that by increasing the turns (& size) of the traf as also increasing the voltage of the capacitors.

@everyone:
Just wanted to share some thoughts which are objective and not influenced by overunity fanaticism.
I'd read several articles of Graneau (and son) works. These are the people that had studied the effect we trying to achieve here.
So the effect is real.
They believed that after effect the water molecules are splitted each other. The overunity energy came from the energy that is holding the H20 molecules together. And this from otherside is coming from the sun. However many people believed (even some of the people worked with P. Graneau) that his calculation about overunity of the effect are big mistake. But even if no mistake according to Graneau we getting overunity about 2 to input energy. Do you think that is enough for alternator to make energy so can feed the engine? I don't - that's why believe that s1r9a9m s work is lie (who knows?).
However there is something else, if really there is overunity we can utilize the wasted energy using "Tesla Switch". Remembered that we'd used a bulb's for feeding the big capacitor and preventing the shorts. In analogue way we can use the current after the big sparks to feed another capacitor (see what the tesla switch projects in the forum). That will definately increase the COP and make things possible.
But you may be see it's all thought and it need a lot of tries and mistakes to clear the way.
This is the way I am following and believe the same way as some of the people here.
Unfortunately I am still having problem with compression on my engine so I cannot help you guys more real world data currently. Although  I hope that I did helped somebody by my thoughts.

Thanks.

Hi vlindos,

thank you for sharing your capacitor70 circuit experience. Each system will have pros and cons but by working together we may find the most ideal method.

Thanks for also sharing your views on the Tesla switch. I think there could be a potential there but would tend to think using modern electronics for switching will be a dead end. Maybe spark gaps as switches with discharges of less than 10us may find better results?

Who knows

Maybe allcanadian has found something and is waiting for us to see the light

Luc

[gotoluc]

Group,

There was a current flowing through the high side of the ignition coil from the low voltage driver circuit through the diode chain.
(In my CDI circuits posted earlier in this thread.)

This current leakage was not wanted so I have designed a new circuit proposal that have no leakage at all.
The new circuit uses high voltage high current diodes to insulate the ignition coil high voltage.

I hope you will find this circuit useful.

Groundloop.

Thanks you once again Groundloop for your continued interest, support and sharing of your circuit design ideas.

Luc

[ezbruce]

Hello guys !
this is my first post PLEASE be gentle with me. I found out that if you use a 4 post 12 v. relay across the coil ( pos. to the ground wire or points wire ) you can fire the High amp DC off the diode bridge. Some what in time to fire the plugs.However I don't know what  freq.that it will hold up to ( I.E. RPM of the engine.?) and how better can you charge the cap also seems to be a problem. All opinions greatfully appreciated. possible what is needed is two relays fired at the same time?.
thanks Bruce

[gotoluc]

Hello guys !
this is my first post PLEASE be gentle with me. I found out that if you use a 4 post 12 v. relay across the coil ( pos. to the ground wire or points wire ) you can fire the High amp DC off the diode bridge. Some what in time to fire the plugs.However I don't know what  freq.that it will hold up to ( I.E. RPM of the engine.?) and how better can you charge the cap also seems to be a problem. All opinions greatfully appreciated. possible what is needed is two relays fired at the same time?.
thanks Bruce

Welcome aboard Bruce,

unfortunately I can't help you with your request since we are not at the point of applying the circuit to an automobile at this time. Please note that this effect has no heat!... it stays cold!... even if it works for hours. We don't quite understand why the water reacts like it explodes. Some who have replicated are convinced that it also implodes immediately after the explosion. So with this said it will not make a standard combustion engine work on water alone at this time since you would need the water to expand, which needs heat to do that. Please read my recent post to get up to date as what I am suggesting to do to get the heat needed for expansion.

Luc